Davis, Arthur

[a chesters]

Seeking information re Arthur Davis, born Camberwell Surry 1858.

Appears in 1861, 1871 censuses. Shown in 1911 census at an institution in Southwark. Which one I cannot determine.

Any ideas on how I can find the missing census information?
Have tried Ancesty and Findmypast at the local library, but no go.

Most frustrating.

A Chesters

in Australia 

[cath151]

Hi,
Do you have a subscription? If so if you click on the address tab above the record it will help with establishment.
On free indexes there seems to be only one Arthur Davis b 1858 in Southwark, hope i m looking at right one.
Best wishes
 Cathy

[a chesters]

Cathy,

Thanks for that. Unfortunately I do not have a subscription at this time, and organisations are not permitted  subscriptions. As a member of the Society of Aust Genealogists, even they cannot get a subscription for the 1911 census.

Is it possible that "institutions" in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 censuses did not fill out census forms for inmates?, as I am assuming that the one in 1911 was a mental type. No reason for the thought but.....

Thanks for your help

A Chesters

in Australia

[suzard]

I don't think the Arthur in an institution is "yours"

Is this him in 1901
246 & 248 Hackney Rd
Bethnal Green London
Arthur Davis head M 43 Mercantile Clerk Camberwell Surrey
Sarah wife 47 Ilchester Somerset
Rg13 282 407

Suz

[suzard]

1891
246 & 248 Hackney Rd Bethnal Green London
Arthur Davis head M 33 bank Clerk Camberwell Surrey
Sarah wife 39 Ilchester Somerset
Walter A son 15 Mercantile Clerk bermondsey Surrey
RG12 258 6 5

Suz

[a chesters]

Suzard

Thanks for that, but the information I have gathered is that his wife was a Kate Ward, married in 1875, 3 months before first child born!!, BUT it could be possible as second child, my maternal grandmother was born in 1879. He was a Mercantile Clerk on the marriage certificate. In 1879 shown as a greengrocer on birth certificate of 2nd child, and as a cashier in 1903 for marriage of daughter.

If Kate died or disappeared between 1879 and 1891 he could have remarried so I will have to go through FreeBDM to see if I can find out.

It is getting more interesting all the time.

Again, thanks for the information which will cause more work.

A Chesters

In Australia   

[[Ray]]

Hi

Is this them? .......
 
8th Feb 1875
St Marys Lambeth
Arthur Davis 21 Bachelor Mercantile Clerk Spring Gardens
Father = Thomas Davis - Grocer
Kate Ward 21 Spinster Spring Gardens
Father = Charles Ward Builder
Witnesses = Geo(?) Bailey, Margaret Bailey

If it is them then both born 1853/4(ish).

Ray

[[Ray]]

Hi

"Any ideas on how I can find the missing census information? "

If you could confirm the childrens details that would help to find the family?
If you could confirm the census details that you have found (inc census refs) then that might help too?
Save us all having to do the same work (and be wrong).

Thanks
Ray

[suzard]

this seems to fit the Arthur who married kate -but by 1881 he is married to Sarah???

1861
1 Clifton Close lambeth
Thomas Davis head m 49 Butler Bradwell Essex
Elizabeth wife 41 brintree Essex
Walter Thomas son 16 Junior clerk to foreign Importer Camberwell Surrey
Alfred T son 13 grocer Camberwell Surrey
Ellen Elizabeth daughter 7 Camberwell Surrey
ARTHUR son 3 camberwell surrey
(also living at same address but separately the hackford family (wife and 2 children)
RG9 362 91 6


1871

3 Victoria Lambeth
Thomas Davis head M 50 grocer Bradwell Essex
Elizabeth wife 54 braintree Essex
Alfred son 23 grocer Camberwell Surrey
Ellen daughter 16 Dressmaker camberwell
ARTHUR son 13 Clerk
RG10 683 39 25

then

1881
Manor Rd
Arthur davis Head M 30 Vegetable salesman greengrocer Camberwell Surrey
Sarah wife 31 Ilchester somerset
Georgina Masters visitor 24 dressmaker Ilchester Somerset
RG11 538 15 23

age very "out" in 1881!!!
but it does look like same person

Suz