Clayden in Helions or Steeple Bumpstead

[louisa maud]

This may be them on 1851 living Steeple Bumpstead, George's gae varies from census to census

John Claydon 50 butcher
Hephzibar 43
George 22 Butcher
Allen 17
Thomas 12
Elizabeth 10
John 7
Caroline 5
Daniel 2
Charles 2 months
all born Steeple Bumpstead but I can't read wife's place of birth, starts STAM ???but I can't make out rest

familysearch.org have a lot of Claydon/Clayden , some of the above are under Claydon or Clayden

HAPPY HUNTING

LM

[louisa maud]

This is what you asked for

1891 REF  RG12/498 FOLIO 84 PAGE 83
128 New Rolt Road St Paul's Deptford
Albert Brown 30 police constable born Whitechapel
Elizabeth 31 Bumpstead
Elsabeth 5 Deptford
Albert 3 Deptford
Frederick W 2 Deptford
Thomas H 3 mths Deptford

1901 RG13/365 FOLIO 16 PAGE 24
13 Madron St Kent Road Walworth
Albert Brown 41 police seargent
Elizabeth 41
Albert 13
Frederick W 12
Thomas H 11
Charles 5 born Shepherds Bush
Alice M 2 born Walworth

Alice Matilda Brown of 13 Madron St father PS
born 17/04/1898
bapt St Mary Southwark 04/05/1898
parents Albert and Elizabeth

Thomas Henry of Rolt St father PC   R Division
bapt 29/01/1891 St Mark Deptford

Frederick William of Rolt St father PC
bapt 27/02/1889 St Mark Deptford parents as above

Elizabeth  of 6 Arbinger Road West father PC
bapt 10/06/1886 St Mark Deptford

Elizabeth missing from 1901



Louisa Maud

[m-1]

Thank you so much for all your time, you've given so much information! Very happy that one of the houses which the Browns lived in, in Deptford, is amazingly still there!

With a name like Hephzibar Claydon, it was pretty easy to find more information on her through Familysearch.org and Mundia.com. Her name was Hephzibah Ralling and was from Stambourne. From that I found her parents who were John Ralling and Bridget 'Biddy' Banks.

Thanks again Louisa, interesting though that this has proved that the Brown's aren't from actually from Essex (as previously thought). The furthest back for the Brown line would be Albert Brown born in Whitechapel, but we know his father is William Brown who was also a P.C. which should (fingers crossed) make it easier to search the census returns.

Should I post a new query for that information in the London and Middlesex board?

Kind regards
Miles

[louisa maud]

Hi Miles
Pleased to have helped

If it is a London enquiry it ought to go on the London and Middlesex board I think,
 
Don't forget if you want the PC's records they can also be got

Happy Hunting

LM

[m-1]

I'll definitely remember to look into the police constable records. What sort of information would I be able to expect from them? Should be interesting nevertheless!

Thanks again

[louisa maud]

Hi Miles
Well the records for PC's should tell you years of service, where stationed, pension,  but it does look as if he did quite a few years as a PC and then as a PS

1881 Elizabeth is under CLAYDEN working as a housemaid at Birdbrook in Essex, aged 22, correct place of birth

Can't as yet find Albert in London

LM

[robesur]

I have just come across this posting as I have been absent for several weeks and noticed that Elizabeth Clayden features in my family tree.  You may have this information already. She was baptised in Steeple Bumpstead 27 Oct. 1861 the daughter of  George Clayden & Emma Darkin. As far as I have ascertained her siblings were
William George 1853
Julia Ann 1857
Flora 1863
Frederick 1866-1871
Mary 1870
George 1873

George & Emma's marriage in 1855 was about 2 years after the birth of William George, but he was registered as Clayden. I have no information on Emma's parents.

George's parents were John Clayden 1801-1873 and Hepzibah c1807-1883. I do not know her maiden name but she was born in Stambourne, which is a village in Essex on the border with Suffolk. I haven't got access to Stambourne parish records.

George Clayden's parents are Thomas Clayden c1770- and Elizabeth Dyer 1777-. These are my 4GGrandparents.