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who is georges father?
« on: Wednesday 26 January 11 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, i am looking for the parents of george tustin born 1827  butlers marston, in 1851 he is with his wife maria living in hampton in arden warwickshire, maria was born in barston warwickshire in 1830, i have been looking for years but nothing, i know i should buy the certificate but want to be sure first, i was given the tree by a man who had been doing the tustin trees for years but looks like he could have made a mistake as to the parentage of george tustin 1827, if any one could spare a little time to search i would be very grateful

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Re: who is georges father?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 January 11 14:21 GMT (UK) »
If you order the film at your nearest LDS centre you would probably be able to view the marriage in the Parish Register

George Tustin to Maria Smith 14 Oct 1849 — Bickenhill, Warwick, England

indexing project (batch) number: M01652-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 198747
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Re: who is georges father?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 January 11 19:46 GMT (UK) »
According to submitted entries on familysearch George Tustin bp.15/10/1826 Butlers Marston, son of George and Susannah.   Siblings:

Elizabeth bp.7/3/1813
Hannah bp.22/2/1818
Elizabeth 16/12/1821
Lucy bp.17/8/1823

George senior shown bc.1767 and buried 19/7/1831 Butlers Marston.

Possible marriage for parents:

George Tustin married Susanna Warr 21/4/1806 St. Phillips, Birmingham.

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Re: who is georges father?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 January 11 00:03 GMT (UK) »
hi anette this is what i have on one of the transcribed marriages for george and susannah, it says george is a widow?

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Re: who is georges father?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 January 11 03:55 GMT (UK) »
Kerry1212,
 
I think it is wise to let people know that you already have a thread going on this matter.

For those that have answered this post See Kerry1212 Prevoius  theads, 

Again,the  family search  submitted entry is  incorrect.

The George Tustin that familysearch state was born 1767 and buried 19th July 1831 Butler Marston is incorrect. --See your  other thread.

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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 January 11 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Have read the other posts and done some research trying to stick only to facts rather than the info. (most of it wrong) posted on online trees.

First, with the exception of 1, none of the Butlers Marston baptisms are in online records - you need to have a check made of the records to confirm although my instinct here is that the parents - George and Susannah - are correct.

Children:

William bp.27/7/1806 Butlers Marston (submitted entry no parents shown) - he married an Elizabeth Smith 16/1/1827 St. Martin, Birmingham and lived in Butlers Marston 1841/1851.

Sarah bp.29/6/1808 Butlers Marston (submitted entry no parents shown) - she married Thomas Brown 21/1/1838 Leamington Priors (father shown as George).   Living in L.P. in 1841 and Susannah Tustin living with them.   In 1851 still there but husband shown as a William (?).

Ann bc.1811 (nothing submitted) bur.21/8/1829 Butlers Marston 

Elizabeth bp.7/3/1813 Butlers Marston (submitted - if correct she died between 1813 - 1815)

Elizabeth bp.8/4/1815 Butlers Marston dau. of George and Susannah.   This is an extracted entry.   She married a Stephen Prophet 12/10/1837 Leamington Priors, shown as dau. of George.

Hannah bp.22/2/1818 Butlers Marston (submitted entry).  She married James Clarke 20/5/1839 Leamington Priors (father shown as George).

Lucy bp.16/12/1821 Butlers Marston (submitted) - bur. 26/9/1822 (NBI) aged 9 months.

Lucy bp.17/8/1823 Butlers Marston (submitted - in 1851 she's single and working as a Cook in Leamington Priors).

George bp.15/10/1826 Butlers Marston - submitted, as you know and the subject of this topic.

We know that George bur.19/7/1831 Butlers Marston (NBI) was aged 44 so born circa 1787.    According to 1841 Census Susannah Tustin, his widow, was bc.1781 - she appears to have died in 1843.

If the Birmingham marriage is correct it seems unlikely that George would have been a widower as only 19/20 when he married.   Perhaps it was Susannah Marr who was a widow? since she seems to be 7/8 years at least older than him.

Anything further right now is just conjecture which is the situation you are currently in.   You have to get a check made of Butlers Marston baptisms to confirm they are all to George and Susannah, and check the details of the Birmingham marriage which might not even be the correct one.   Just because dates fit doesn't make it so.   

One step at a time - ignore the conflicting and mostly wrong information that's online at the moment and check the facts.

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Re: who is georges father?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 February 11 15:40 GMT (UK) »
thank you annette, hope someone can help


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Re: who is georges father?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 13 January 12 20:18 GMT (UK) »
hi all have just found that george who married susannah warrr is my ggg grandfather, i don't know where he was born or parents can some kind person help :)

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Re: who is georges father?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 January 12 00:18 GMT (UK) »
It seems to be quite clear to me - as already mentioned, George was bc.1787 and surely has to be the George Tustin bp.29/6/1788 Hanbury, Worcestershire, son of Robert and Ann.

Hanbury is only 38 miles from Butlers Marston.

(there is no trace of George bp'd 1788 in Worcestershire after his baptism thus indicating that he'd moved on).

Can find no siblings for George and no marriage online for Robert and Ann.

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Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

Don't walk behind me, I may not lead.   Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow.   Just walk beside me and be my friend.

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