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Re: Access to registers ....
« Reply #9 on: Friday 28 January 11 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Can you suggest where I go from here then please.  I am still trying to find this death for William DAVIES in Merthyr.  I don't know his year of death (only that he was dead BY 1968).

Searching the indexes won't do me ANY GOOD whatsoever, and certainly wouldn't hely the Registrar in their search - hence my request to look through the registers myself ...

Simply (them, not you) telling me no, it's against the law is about as helpful as a chocolate teapot.  There must be something we can do to find relatives where the names are so common. ... mustn't there ???

Confusingly ....... How can I access registers in a RECORDS office too then?  I've sat in the Gwent RO for hours going over them ... admittidly ythey are very old, but surely the same process applies?  Oh this is all very confusing!! (and a good money making scheme .. heh heh)
Homer, Smith : Kington, & Tirphil
Davies : Carmarthen & Tirphil
Greenway : Cornwall, Bristol & South Wales
Nicklen : Exeter
Squire & Stone : Cadleigh & Exeter
Vigers : Exmouth
Smith : Corsham
Webber, Salter : Morchard Bishop
Evans, Balsom, Farrent, Salter, Shallis, Snell : Otterton & Heavitree
Thompson, Smith, Leek : Brynmawr & Monmouth
Davies :  Merthyr & Neath
Ridd : George Nympton
Dando : everywhere
O'Mara : Ireland & Wales
Manfield : Bristol & Cardiff
Pollexfin : Devon (var)

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 28 January 11 23:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Andy.

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 January 11 02:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Welsh Girl

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Confusingly ....... How can I access registers in a RECORDS office too then?  I've sat in the Gwent RO for hours going over them ... admittidly ythey are very old, but surely the same process applies?  Oh this is all very confusing!! (and a good money making scheme .. heh heh

The difference primarily is that Register Offices hold the Civil Registrations relating to Birth, Marriage and Death registrations whereas Record Offices have many church records.

A Register office is not a family history research service. Its primary role relates to modern events, registering of births, deaths etc.

One thing to keep in mind is that a death certificate for the period you are looking at does not have any family information apart from possibly the informant and if a person died in hospital then the informant is likely to be someone from the hospital. Also, the difficulty in finding a death is knowing where he died as it would be registered where it occurred which is not necessarily where a person lived.

Andy



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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 29 January 11 08:40 GMT (UK) »
Good point Andy - thank you :)

I am 99.9% certain that they were living in Pentrebach when he died.  Trouble is, because I don't have the year he died, the indexes would be of no use.....and there are a LOT of William Davies's in Merthyr!! 

On a more positive note, now that I have Florrie's DC, at least I can check burials/cemeteries, and he SHOULD be in there with her.  They had children, so they would have seen to that (or at least, I'd like to think so!)

I called MTBC Burials Dept yesterday (twice) but there was nobody in the office (the girl on the Switchboard was very nice, as I kept being transferred back to her!!) ha ha  I will try again Monday!!

Any suggestions which Cemetery he'd/she'd be in if they lived in Pentrebach please? 


Thanks for your help ...
Homer, Smith : Kington, & Tirphil
Davies : Carmarthen & Tirphil
Greenway : Cornwall, Bristol & South Wales
Nicklen : Exeter
Squire & Stone : Cadleigh & Exeter
Vigers : Exmouth
Smith : Corsham
Webber, Salter : Morchard Bishop
Evans, Balsom, Farrent, Salter, Shallis, Snell : Otterton & Heavitree
Thompson, Smith, Leek : Brynmawr & Monmouth
Davies :  Merthyr & Neath
Ridd : George Nympton
Dando : everywhere
O'Mara : Ireland & Wales
Manfield : Bristol & Cardiff
Pollexfin : Devon (var)


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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 29 January 11 09:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Welsh Girl

I don't know the area so I can't help with specifics but I would look for a notice in a paper where Florrie formerly lived. If you can find where she is buried then you might find her husband. Also, did any children die before them that they might have purchased a grave for?

Good luck

Andy

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 January 11 16:22 GMT (UK) »
William died before her -  it's his I am trying to find.  I know where she lived prior to going into the home, so I'll try the Merthyr Council burials again .... their children outlived them :)Thanks Andy :D
Homer, Smith : Kington, & Tirphil
Davies : Carmarthen & Tirphil
Greenway : Cornwall, Bristol & South Wales
Nicklen : Exeter
Squire & Stone : Cadleigh & Exeter
Vigers : Exmouth
Smith : Corsham
Webber, Salter : Morchard Bishop
Evans, Balsom, Farrent, Salter, Shallis, Snell : Otterton & Heavitree
Thompson, Smith, Leek : Brynmawr & Monmouth
Davies :  Merthyr & Neath
Ridd : George Nympton
Dando : everywhere
O'Mara : Ireland & Wales
Manfield : Bristol & Cardiff
Pollexfin : Devon (var)

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 02 February 11 14:01 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried contacting the local council's bereavement services?  I've always found them very helpful.

http://www.merthyr.gov.uk/Home/Local+Services/Bereavement+Services/Cemetery+Information/default.htm
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SHINGLETON
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 02 February 11 16:42 GMT (UK) »
I've found them - in ABERFAN !!!!  (not in Brithdir as my letter suggested)

They are buried in the same section as the children from the Aberfan disaster ....

he died in 1944 btw .. I'd never have found him !
Homer, Smith : Kington, & Tirphil
Davies : Carmarthen & Tirphil
Greenway : Cornwall, Bristol & South Wales
Nicklen : Exeter
Squire & Stone : Cadleigh & Exeter
Vigers : Exmouth
Smith : Corsham
Webber, Salter : Morchard Bishop
Evans, Balsom, Farrent, Salter, Shallis, Snell : Otterton & Heavitree
Thompson, Smith, Leek : Brynmawr & Monmouth
Davies :  Merthyr & Neath
Ridd : George Nympton
Dando : everywhere
O'Mara : Ireland & Wales
Manfield : Bristol & Cardiff
Pollexfin : Devon (var)

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 02 February 11 21:06 GMT (UK) »
Great to hear that you've found them.  If you check the bereavement services website you will see that Aberfan is the closest cemetery to where you last had them living.

If you want to get the plot number and pm me I'll pop along there on the weekend (weather permitting) and get a photo.

Jan
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SCREEN
SHINGLETON
STADDON
NORTHOVER