Edward Palmer Smith

[JVH]

I seem to have come to a dead end on finding Edward Palmer Smith, who appears as the deceased father of the groom on my maternal grandparents marriage certificate on 01 Dec 1919.  He is shown as having been a bootmaker, and we were told he himself had a club foot, but that he "made hundreds walk" so we assume he was an orthopedic bootmaker.  We were told our grandfather (Cyril Charles Greyson Smith) was born in Taunton, Somerset, so thought that was a reasonable place to search.  Not a thing.  Les de B even tried to find him in his book about Taunton, but there isn't even a single Smith mentioned, which is quite odd.

Is there anyone researching this Smith family who might have some insights? 

Thanks, John Howard

[CaroleW]

You haven't given any details of his birthyear but could this be his birth


Births September qtr 1892 
Cyril Charles G Smith     Pancras  1b 15

[JVH]

Thanks, Carole, that looks very promising.  I was beginning to get suspicious of the Taunton connection, so it looks like this is well worth pursuing!  We have an approximate birth date for CCG of 1891, so that's a good match. Well done!

John

[CaroleW]

Births December qtr 1860 
Edward Palmer Smith   Edmonton  3a 129

[CaroleW]

Marriages December qtr 1903   
Edward Palmer Smith     Barnet  3a 551
to either Mary Ann Gibbon or Beatrice Emma Kemp

Probably a re-marriage

[CaroleW]

The free 1911 index has an entry for Edward Palmer Smith aged 50 living in Christchurch Hants

Using only the index cross refers to a Mary Ann Smith aged 53 so he presumably married Mary Ann Gibbon

No other Smiths show up on that check

Cyril was born 25.7.1892 according to his death reg in Sussex in 1983

[Maryam]

Here's the 1903 marriage Carole found; make of it what you will!

Monkton Hadley Parish Church, Barnet
26th December 1903 after Banns

Edward Palmer SMITH 42 bachelor; engineer; living Bristol; father: William SMITH, surgeon
Mary Ann GIBBON 43 spinster; living Hadley Rd; father: Charles William GIBBON, clerk

Both signed the register
Witnesses: C W GIBBON; Osgood SMITH

KR
Maryam

[Maryam]

So where were they in 1901?

Added: ignore this; probably confusing things 


It may be there were two Edward P Smiths; the engineer one with the 1903 marriage can be found in earlier censuses, born c1861, Edmonton, with father William a medical practitioner, mother Elizabeth.

1901 Census
RG13 2429 43 2
47 Park Road, Gloucester
Edward P SMITH Head 33 commercial traveller; b Gloster (sic)
Annie Wife 30; b Stroud, Glo'shire
Cyril G P Son 6; b Gloster
Harold W P Son 3; b Gloster
Edith LEWIS Servt 16; general servant domestic; b Gloster

[CaroleW]

Hi Maryam

Some similarities but the 1901 Cyril was born 1894/5 and is Cyril G P Smith

The one being researched is Cyril Charles Grayson Smith b 1892

The 1901 father was Edward Pedder Smith per freebmd marriages 1893