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Frances CARTLITCH, Burslem, Staffs. c.1700.
« on: Sunday 06 February 11 14:20 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find the baptism of Frances Cartlitch who was born circa <1700> in Burslem area of Staffs.
Frances married Thomas Rowley (b. <1700> Wolstanton, Staffs) on 31 May 1784 at Eastwood, Nottinghamshire.   They had seven children.

I would very much appreciate any information at all about Frances and/or her family as I have been unable to find her in parish registers so far.
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Dawson - Nottinghamshire
Holmes- Norfolk, Derbyshire

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Re: Frances CARTLITCH, Burslem, Staffs. c.1700.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 February 11 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Can you confirm year of birth please? You say Frances was born c 1700 and that she married Thomas in 1784:-\ I'm not very good at sums, but wouldn't that mean she 84 when she married, and then managed to produce seven children?  ;D

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Re: Frances CARTLITCH, Burslem, Staffs. c.1700.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 February 11 14:37 GMT (UK) »
Sorry about that mistake - my dyslexic fingers today.
Thomas and Frances were married on 21 Feb 1721 at Wolstanton Parish Church.
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Re: Frances CARTLITCH, Burslem, Staffs. c.1700.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 February 11 02:23 GMT (UK) »
What is the source of this marriage?

The IGI has several submitted baptisms and marriages for Frances - one marriage says 21 Feb 1708 as well as one for 21 Feb 1721 ...  :-\

Have you viewed the Wolstanton Parish Registers to check if either of the above marriages is correct?

I take it you have looked at these PR's for her baptism? Did you find Thomas's baptism at Wolstanton? Once again there are several submitted records for him on the IGI. Some give specific dates and parents so I was wondering if you'd checked to see if these are accurate.  :)


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Re: Frances CARTLITCH, Burslem, Staffs. c.1700.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 February 11 02:28 GMT (UK) »
There are many Thomas Rowley's in Staffordshire around the right time. How did you trace back to this couple and how did you find out they both hail from Wolstanton?

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Re: Frances CARTLITCH, Burslem, Staffs. c.1700.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 February 11 19:46 GMT (UK) »
I obtained the marriage of Thomas to Frances Cartlich from the parish registers (microfiche) and the entry reads as follows:-
1720/1, Feb. 21.   Rowley, Thomas to Cartlich, Frances.
The baptism of Thomas on 12 Jan 1700/1 was given to me by a contact.
I have yet to double check this baptism in the parish registers. 
I realise there are lots of Thomas Rowleys around the same time, and that has been the problem since all brothers seemed to name all their children by the same names, both male and female.
I never enter names into my tree unless they have been checked and verified personally by me.   A lesson I learned early on in my research.
However, I would very much like to find out a little more about Frances and her family in the meantime.
Regards,
Aquilegia18
Rowley - Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Staffordshire
Dawson - Nottinghamshire
Holmes- Norfolk, Derbyshire

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Re: Frances CARTLITCH, Burslem, Staffs. c.1700.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 February 11 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Oh I see.

I was wondering when you viewed the PR of the marriage, if you also checked for their baptisms in Wolstanton.


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Re: Frances CARTLITCH, Burslem, Staffs. c.1700.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 February 11 19:27 GMT (UK) »
I purchased PR on microfiche for St. Margaret's, Wolstanton.   I have checked these and so far have the marriage of Thomas Rowley to Frances Cartlich on 21 Feb 1720/1.  I have baptisms at St. Margaret's for seven children :-
Thomas 1723; Joseph 1731; James 1732; Randle 1734; Meshack 1736; George 1738 and Charles 1738.   I have a death for Charles in 1752.
 I do have to double check the baptisms with the microfiche as reading them is wearing on the old eyesight.
I come from a long line of Thomases and Mechacks, all with brothers and sisters with the same name - hence the confusion the further back I get. 

I just thought I would like to try to find out something about Frances Cartlich and her family.   Perhaps I need to buy the fiche for Burslem and try there.
Thanks for the input anyway.  Any suggestions would be helpful.
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Re: Frances CARTLITCH, Burslem, Staffs. c.1700.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 February 11 22:09 GMT (UK) »
You may already have seen this, and it's a lot later than the timeframe you are researching at the moment, but there are quite a lot of Cartlitchs mentioned here, and may come in handy at some time:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bqd/