Wesleyan Methodist Records in Bradford

[patticake]

Need help finding where marriage and christening records for the WM Chapels, east Bradford, can be found and searched.  Specifically the years 1881-1888  and definitely 1885.

Names: Marriage: George H Waterworth and Harriet Turner.  Marriage date unknown but most likely prior to 1885.
            Christening:  Rose Waterworth, parents above, born 18 February 1885.    Registered 12 March of 1885. Subdistrict Bowling.  Lived on 65 Sturges Street.

[madri]

Patticake, I can see the following marriage:

George Waterworth / Harriet Arundale
March 1883 /  Bradford
Vol No: 9b / Page No: 171
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

or
1883
George Waterworth / Harriet Arundale
St Wilfred, Calverley, Leeds
http://www.yorkshirebmd.info/

Madri

[BumbleB]

Welcome to Rootschat!!  If you live near Bradford, then the Bradford Nonconformist records are held at the West Yorkshire Archive Service office in the Central Library in Bradford, although most of them will be available on microfiche at any of the WYAS offices in Halifax, Huddersfield, Leeds and Wakefield.  However, I'm sure that a kind Rootschatter will be able to offer to do the look-up on your behalf, if you are unable to get to Yorkshire.

BumbleB

[patticake]

I live in the US so I won't be able to do  the look up myself    If someone could check them for me, I would be very grateful.  I am at a brickwall trying to find information on Harriet Turner.  All I have is her name on the birth record and that she supposedly died, somewhere, in March of 1888.  There in no death record in the GRO, no marriage record in the GRO and no way to know which Harriet Turner she might be from the census. 

Patti

[patticake]

Madri, I too have seen the record with Harriet Arundale and expect to have the the GRO record any day.  I think I had it a few years ago and determined that it was incorrect but I am having a second look since I cannot find it. 

My Harriet seems to have fallen through the cracks of records.  There is  high probability that she immigrated with George and baby Rose to the US after 1885 but  there are no passenger records with their names.  George did immigrate in 1881 and I found that record but nothing later.  How the heck did he father a child in Bradford?

[madri]

Gosh Patticake, that is quite a conundrum.  Did they re-enter the States via Canada?  Harriet's death could be either USA or England??

Is it possible that they never married?

The couple that  I gave you the marriage details for (above), I have since found on 1891 Census here in England.  I will give you the ref so you can eliminate them.
RG12 / 3750 / 60 / 3  -  5 Phoenix Street, Wakefield

I guess we have to find Harriet & Rose entering the States together or George & his daughter Rose??  I will keep searching. 

Madri

[Calverley Lad]

Calverley marriage 1883 03 24 transcription:
George Waterworth 34 years batchelor blacksmith Rodley father George Waterworth farmer witness Albert Grimshaw.
Harriet Arundale 23years single millhand Farsley father John Arundale millhand witness Sarah Elizabeth Barker
 Entry CE127/S/26
 Brian   

[patticake]

Thanks Brian.  That confirms the marriage is NOT my George.  His father was Thomas and a tailor by trade and George is listed in the 1881 census as a brass finisher.

[patticake]

Madri, I do have someone looking into obits in Norristown, PA for the date of Harriet's death.  George remarried 6 months later.  As for entering via Canada, that is possible but I am fairly certain that Ancestry would have turned that up.  Not impossible that it didn't.

I have wondered about them not marrying BUT the birth record indicates Rose's mother as Harriet Waterworth, formerly Turner.  Maybe it just didn't get registered, maybe they married in the US and returned to England (which will be impossible to find) or maybe it was her second marriage and Turner isn't the correct name.  That is why I hope there is a christening record with the Methodists.  I need another name or some piece of information.

Thanks for all your help.  If you have any ideas let me know.

How can I attach a scan of the birth record?  Looked at the directions but I am not getting the Browse box to upload image.  Never mind.