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SIMMONS / SULLIVAN Help Requested *COMPLETED*
« on: Saturday 19 February 11 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Seeking help to find birth or arrival information about the following:

Phillip Simmons
Honorah Sullivan

They were married at Houghton, New South Wales, Australia on14 Jan 1840.

I have a transcript of the marriage certificate which states married with the consent of parents. This implies one or both were under 21 at the time, and that the parents were available to give consent.

I have five children
Sarah a Simmons bn 1841
Caroline Simmons bn 1842
Mary Simmons bn 1846
Margaret Simmons bn 1848
John Simmons bn 1850
All borh in or around the Hunter Valley of NSW

The only information I can gather about Phillip is he was an agent for the The Maitland Mercury & Hunter River General Advertiser in the Hanging Rock and Upper Peel area.

BUT!!! Where did Phillip and Honorah come from!!!!

I can find no information on that at all.

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Re: Simmons/ Sullivan Help Requested
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 February 11 23:51 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there

Do you have  Phillip's death at all?

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Re: SIMMONS / SULLIVAN Help Requested
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 February 11 09:50 GMT (UK) »
There is this death, no parent names given on the index.

Philip Simmons
1861 #4860
Aged 56,
Died: Hanging Rock, Tamworth district, New South Wales

This puts his birthdate as abt 1805.

Austcemindex shows a memorial for an Honor SIMMONDS who died on the goldfields near Hanging Rock in 22 July,1854 aged 31 years (thus born abt !823) which looks a possible.  I can't see this death on the NSW index.

http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=1475050

NLA newspapers have some mentions of him as Agent for The Mercury - as you have already found.  He is also mentioned in The Maitland Mercury & Hunter River General Advertiser, Saturday 21 October 1854 as a person who gave an alarm about a fire.

Not that any of this helps find him before his marriage.  :(

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Re: SIMMONS / SULLIVAN Help Requested
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 February 11 21:29 GMT (UK) »
PHILLIP  was also the publican at the HANGING ROCK INN

SIMMONS Phillip Haning Rock Inn,
 The Hanging Rock, District of Liverpool Plains 1853 5 December 1158 [4/86]* Reel 5064
   
SIMMONS Phillip Hanging Rock Inn,
The Hanging Rock, District of Liverpool Plains 1854 25 May 0373 [4/87]* Reel 5065

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Re: SIMMONS / SULLIVAN Help Requested
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 February 11 00:15 GMT (UK) »
Honora's death notice:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0byi/

A possible arrival:

Aliquis
Departed Cork, Ireland 7 Dec 1838
Arrived Sydney March 16 1839

Dennis SULLIVAN
Age 52
Native of Kerry, Ireland
Farmer
Roman Catholic
Son of Timothy SULLIVAN and Mary

Hannorah SULLIVAN
age 46
Native of Kerry, Ireland
Roman Catholic
(Wife of Dennis)
Daughter of Timothy LOONEY and Johannah

Children onboard:
Mary, 24 (in 1838)
John, 22
Hannorah, 19 (in 1839)
Julia, 17 (in 1838)
Daniel, 15
Patrick, 12
Timothy, 9 (in March 1839)
Margaret, 6

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Re: SIMMONS / SULLIVAN Help Requested
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 February 11 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for the information.

As per usual, I have not considered the alternate spellings of the names to find the information you have found.

With this, I will have more work to do.

Again, thanks for the help.

A Chesters