family research

[huey1]

Hi
looking for help once more, i did a free inscription search of History from Headstones and found  info on the Walker family .The graveyard is Drumbo CI Co. Down,civil parish Drumbo,townland Ballylessen. Two stones joined together one erected by Samuel Walker my GGGgrandfather in memory of two sons(unnamed) who died in infancy also a grandson(unnamed) also his wife Elizabeth d10dec1849 age 54 and also himself d21feb1859 age 53.The other stone was erected by Deborah Walker my GGgrandmother in memory of her husband James Long Walker my GGgrandfather d16dec1851 age 28 also their daughter Elizabeth Long Walker d14dec1853 age 3.There is an addtional insciption which reads Deborah Manderson of Waterfoot,Crumlin wife of James she  d15dec1902 was interred in Gartree Church Yard.I know that Deborah Manderson became Deborah Walker and after his death became Deborah Turtle .Are Ballylesson and Crumlin close to each other and would the Gartree Church Yard be in either one???thnks for any help
Huey1

[kingskerswell]

Huey,
       I do not know the area but the following may be of interest.
5 Aug Deborah Manderson married James Long Walker in Crumlin Non Subscribing Presbyterian Church, Co. Antrim.
7 Nov 1854 Deborah Walker married John Turtle in York Street Presbyterian, Belfast.

Regards

[iluleah]

Ballylesson village (also the Townland) is halfway between Drumbeg and Drumbo(Co Down) theseae are all 'blink and you miss it villages' , where as Crumlin(Co Antrim) is about 18 miles away, the other side of Lisburn (Crumlin is just off Tully Road, next to the International Belfast Airport which overlooks Belfast on the other side/top of Cave Hill)
 http://www.lisburn.com/churches/Lisburn-churches/drumbo-holy-trinity1.html
Annahilt is the nearest larger place and Lisburn which is now a City is about 3 miles away http://www.lisburn.com/churches/Lisburn-churches/anahilt-presbyterian-church.html

http://www.yourlocalweb.co.uk/county-down/drumbo/genealogy-lost-friends/

There are some good NI/Irish links on this website which may help you http://familytimeline.webs.com/apps/links/

[huey1]

Thanks for your help kingskerswell i do have that info,and also thanks iluleah for the Lisburn links.Do you think that the graveyard mentioned i.e Drumbo CI,which i assume stands for Church of Ireland and the Holy Trinity Church are one and the same???
Huey1

[iluleah]

In the links page of the familytimelines website is http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/ which is Ulster FH re graves stones.
Holy Trinity is Church of Ireland http://www.geograph.ie/photo/683820  http://www.bellringingireland.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=21  also in Drumbo is  Drumbo Presbyterian Church. So only two churches in Drumbo also there is also Drumbo Parish  Presbyterian Church Hall (Ballylesson Road Drumbo, Belfast, County Antrim BT8 8JS)
Under Drumbo parish is the Church of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (Catholic) but that is in Carryduff, not near Dumbo,

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ladyengineer/drumbo.html

Drumbo even now only has about 400 residents and everyone knows everyone, well 'blow ins' won't know , but Drumbo people will know everyone past and present....and because of where it is ( close to Lisburn and Belfast) it is expanding as a commuter belt (communting to work is a very new concept in NI)as there is no more building in Hillsboorough, Carryduff is now a suburb of Belfast ( used to be a village 20 years ago) they are building more houses in Lisburn but the opposite side...so Drumbo is still a tiny Ulster village

Hope that helps

Add: http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?displaygraveyardinfo&graveyard_name=Edenderry%20House

Gartree, Church of Ireland - Killead Parish. http://www.killeadandgartree.co.uk/killeadandgartree_003.htm

http://www.antrim.gov.uk/Community_AZ.cfm/alpha/all/CommunityCat_Id/4/Category_Key/128

[huey1]

Hi
Thanks again iluleah for the links.Seeing that the family is buried in the Drumbo C.I. graveyard should i assume that Samuel Walker or his wife Elizabeth would have been members of that church and could have been married there and that maybe there would be a marriage record for them or a baptismal record for the unnamed children listed on the headstone held by the church.I'am thinking that Samuel and Elizabeth would have been married in the early 1800"s and married in the early 1820"s
Huey1

[Elwyn Soutter]

It is quite common for Presbyterians to be buried in a Church of Ireland graveyard, so I would not assume that anyone buried there must be members of that church.

[huey1]

Thanks Elwyn,James Long Walker my GGrandfather who is inscibed on the 2nd stone in the graveyard is listed as a Presb.when he married Deborah Manderson in the Crumlin Non Subs Church

Huey1

[Elwyn Soutter]

I think for a while the Church of Ireland had most of the graveyards so people had to be buried there, regardless of their religion. Then when other graveyards were available for other religions, some still used the COI because by then it was their family tradition.

In Finvoy COI there is a grave to a Presbyterian Minister from the Presbyterian church half a mile away. The Presbyterian church has its own graveyard, so you might expect him to be buried in it. I assume tradition must be the reason he is not.