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Wills from National Archives
« on: Sunday 13 March 11 15:24 GMT (UK) »
If a person is `of Wrexham` why would his will be proved at Courts of Canterbury. Would it be because he had money and finances in Ireland.
Also the image  is of the index of  will  , it isn`t the original , there is no date for when it was written and no wittnesses.
Where would the original document be.
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Re: Wills from National Archives
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 March 11 15:29 GMT (UK) »
Can you give us the reference details?
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Re: Wills from National Archives
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 March 11 15:32 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Wills from National Archives
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 March 11 16:20 GMT (UK) »
John Nesbitt Fox, there is only one.

Thanks for the link Stan, but there`s not much there I can understand.
This man had property and finance in Ireland, but I have no idea when and where he actually died.
He was an army officer so could have even died overseas.
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Re: Wills from National Archives
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 March 11 17:01 GMT (UK) »
The PCC was the highest probate court in the land - some proved wills were proven there purely for snob value (or the chance of a few days in London).

However, if there was property in Ireland involved it could well be the reason as the local probate courts would not have jurisdiction over Irish assets, perhaps the PCC did.

PCC wills are probate copies, they include the date and witnesses (though, obviously, not the original signatures). The John Nesbitt Fox will certainly has this information - 8 Dec 1821, witnesses Tho Geo Fynimore(?), J Craven A Arand(?) and R???ood? Weston? clerk to Messrs Fynimore & Clarke (presumably the firm that drew up the will).

The PCC may have kept a copy of the original but, in most cases, it would be kept by the executors.
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Re: Wills from National Archives
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 March 11 17:27 GMT (UK) »
Isn't Wrexham in Wales?  What's the Irish connection?
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Re: Wills from National Archives
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 March 11 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Newbury , I didn`t spot that. ::) that narrows down his death  a lot.

How did you get these names without downolading the document. ???
8 Dec 1821, witnesses Tho Geo Fynimore(?), J Craven A Arand(?) and R???ood? Weston? clerk to Messrs Fynimore & Clarke

John N Fox  married an Elizabeth Jones of Wrexham.

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Re: Wills from National Archives
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 March 11 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Here is a very clear guide on where wills had to be proved, according to
the location and value of the assets, and varying from the local archdeacon's
court up to one. or sometimes both, of the two Archbishop's courts.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp

See 'Where would a will be proved?'.


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Re: Wills from National Archives
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 13 March 11 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi


PCC wills online (from The National Archives) are not the originals they are copies.
The copies are court copies of the proved will (in series reference PROB 11). All PCC wills were copied by hand into court ledgers by court clerks. The original wills are also held at The National Archives (in series reference PROB 10).


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