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Very confused!
« on: Thursday 17 March 11 11:48 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I just received a marriage certificate for what I thought would be my 5x Great grandmother and grandfathers marriage....
It turns out it is my 5x Great grandmothers, but she didn't marry my grandfather  ???
the marriage is for Martha Lingard and Isaac Slater in 1849 in Walsall

I know for sure that Martha Lingard was with my great grandfather then because they had their first child in 1849, and I bought a certificate for another of their children and it says Martha Lingard is the mothers name.

I can't find a marriage for Martha Lingard/Slater to a Thomas Rudkin at all. I thought Thomas was using the surname Halfpenny...Is it likely they didn't marry? I'm really confused as they are on the 1851 census together and this is the only Martha Lingard I can find  ??? :-\

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Re: Very confused!
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 March 11 12:11 GMT (UK) »
There is a family tree on ancestory, Martha Lingard and Rudkin names if you have access to it.
mayne - Ireland, Liverpool
lyall - USA, Liverpool, caledon, tyrone ireland
Rhodes - Leeds
McGovern - Ireland, Manchester, Leeds
Haskayne - Lancashire
Wallace - Scotland/Ireland

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Re: Very confused!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 March 11 12:19 GMT (UK) »
One of them is mine  ;D .... :o I better delete that part or people are going to copy it and make the same mistakes as me  :o

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Re: Very confused!
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 March 11 13:02 GMT (UK) »
the 1841 census shows 3 Martha Lingards in Staffordshire
Martha aged 19 probably daughetr fo Richard & Ann (i say probably because relationships were not given in 1841)
aged 15 a female servant along with an Ellen Lingard aged 20 also f.s (remember ages over 15 were rounded down)
and 12 year old Martha who was servant to Thomas Timmins
by 1851 all of these had disappeared !

but there are only 2 marriages
Q4 1844  Newcastle Under Lyme Staffordshire  17 128
 Aaron Dean 
Enoch Johnson
 Martha Lingard
 Harriet Maskery
 Joseph Platt
 Emma Rhead
 George Warrilow


and the one you have to Isaac Slater
 

who did Thomas Halfpenny marry?

who were the witnesses at marriage and who was her father ?

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Re: Very confused!
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 March 11 13:14 GMT (UK) »
The 1844 marriage of Martha Lingard is to Enoch Johnson at St George, Newcastle under Lyme - Staffordshire BMD

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Re: Very confused!
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 March 11 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Is it possible that the first child was registered as Charles Lingard Sep qtr 1848 Walsall? Or is that someone else?
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Re: Very confused!
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 March 11 13:18 GMT (UK) »
the 1841 census shows 3 Martha Lingards in Staffordshire
Martha aged 19 probably daughetr fo Richard & Ann (i say probably because relationships were not given in 1841)
aged 15 a female servant along with an Ellen Lingard aged 20 also f.s (remember ages over 15 were rounded down)
and 12 year old Martha who was servant to Thomas Timmins
by 1851 all of these had disappeared !

but there are only 2 marriages
Q4 1844  Newcastle Under Lyme Staffordshire  17 128
 Aaron Dean 
Enoch Johnson
 Martha Lingard
 Harriet Maskery
 Joseph Platt
 Emma Rhead
 George Warrilow


and the one you have to Isaac Slater
 

who did Thomas Halfpenny marry?

who were the witnesses at marriage and who was her father ?



Hello  ;D

This Martha Lingard's father was called William....The witnesses are Jjohn something, and Susanna...There sunames are so scribbled I can't make them out  :-\


I thought that Thomas Halfpenny may have been Thomas Rudkin, my 5x great grandfather, as when I did a freebmd search, that was the only Thomas on the same page as a Martha Lingard....

i  searched again today but I can't find Thomas Rudkin marrying a Martha... So I'm pretty stuck now!  ::) ;D

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Re: Very confused!
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 March 11 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Is it possible that the first child was registered as Charles Lingard Sep qtr 1848 Walsall? Or is that someone else?

Oh!! That sounds about right, his names was Charles and he was born in 1848 wallsall! Thank you  ;D ;D

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 March 11 13:20 GMT (UK) »
The 1844 marriage of Martha Lingard is to Enoch Johnson at St George, Newcastle under Lyme - Staffordshire BMD

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Thank you! That rules out one of the Martha's  ;D ;D