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[pinkshoes]

I have an Isaac Paskins born C1808 to James and Elizabeth in Broadwater

I have an Abraham Paskins born C1805 (no baptism record, this info has come from census returns and the age he gave at his marriage) to James (he lists James as his father on his marriage certificate and there is a James living with him in the 1841 census)

I was trying to see if these two people could be brothers when I came across the Sussex poor law records. There was no information to this query under "Paskins" so I clicked on "Parkins". There is an Isaac Parkins born C 1808 listed with an application for service and an Abraham Parkins born C1804 listed with an application for service. Both of these individuals have William and Sophie listed as their parents. I cannot find any further evidence relating to William, Sophie, Isaac or Abraham Parkins - could they be Paskins? William and Sophia Paskins were resident in Broadwater and the surrounding area, but there is no evidence that they had children by the names of Isaac or Abraham.

Are the Isaac and Abraham Parkins really Isaac and Abraham Paskins? If so, why are their parents listed as William and Sophie? What happened to James? Are these people all part of a Parkins family that I can find no evidence of? Finally (hurrah I hear you cry), what is an appliation for service?

[Little Nell]

Isaac Paskins was baptised in Broadwater 3 Feb 1808, parents James & Elizabeth.  Sisters Patient & Eleanor born 1799 and 1805 respectively.

Isaac died in 1860 aged 52.  He is buried at Broadwater.

No sign of Abraham in Broadwater. 

Nell

[stonechat]

I looked briefly into Paskins from Broadwater for a not very genealogically interested friend who has since moved away

Will PM you

Bob

[Roy G]

Cant be a record keeping c--k up for there were certainly 2 sets of local parents
William PASKINS married Sophie Graves in Sompting in 1794
James PARKINS married Elizabeth Grimstead in Broadwater in 1794
So unless you have evidence to the contrary, you have to accept that these are two separate families.  The answer may lie in the Sompting baptism records which are unfortunately not on the IGI or SFHG baptismal database.  Roy G

[swebby]

From Barries Genealogy

Abraham appears as a witness to Eleanor Paskins marriage to William Ball 2 May 1829 in Broadwater.
He then appears as a witness to the marriage of Isaac Paskins & Eliza Bashford 27 Apr 1844 (Father down as James for Isaac).

Regards
Sean

[swebby]

I have looked a little further back.

James Paskin was born to John & Elizabeth in Durrington bap 12 Aug 1770.
William Paskin was born to John & Elizabeth in Durrington bap 25 Oct 1767.

So it could well be that the 2 families are related which might explain why Abraham appears as a witness on Eleanor's marriage and James appears with Abraham in the 1841 census.
These could be possible burials for William & Sophia who it appears may well have moved to Brighton at some point.
William Paskin bur. 5 Feb 1837 (Age 68) Broadwater Notes Brighton
Sophia Paskings bur. 16 Sep 1838 (Age 64) Brighton Notes Park Place

But Sompting appears to be key as Roy G stated.

[Sharon01]

Hi,

The 1841 census has Abraham Paskins aged 35 (ag lab) and living in Broadwater with wife Mary 30 and James Paskins 75(gardener). All were born Sussex.

HO107/ Piece 1095/ Book 3/Folio 46/Page 16.

Just realised that you already have the census. Back to looking again.

Sharon

[pinkshoes]

Phew, so much info, thanks!

I totally agree that we are dealing with two couples here, James and Elizabeth and then William and Sophia. Isaac and Abraham are both children of James (whether that's the same James is another story); William and Sophia Paskins did not have any children called Isaac and Abraham, so why would they be listed as the parents in the poor law records? As I said in my original post, the surname in the poor law records is Parkins, not Paskins, but I cannot find any William, Sophie/Sophia, Isaac or Abraham Parkins in Sussex so would like to make the inference that they are Paskins'. Interestingly, there is a removal order for a Parkins family in 1840 on the poor law records that is most definately a Paskins family ...

From Barries geneology there is a James Paskins in the 1821 census listed - 3 males and 1 female. You would assume the 1 female is his wife, but then where has Eleanor gone?

[pinkshoes]

I am going to have to check Sompting records ...

If you don't mind me asking, where did you find that burial information for William and Sophia?