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Tinkers in Scotland,Basket Makers,Hawkers & Tinsmiths
« on: Sunday 20 March 11 14:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Guys

I come from a long line of traditional Travellers in Scotland. My Grandfather Edward McCallum was the last person in our family to be Born in a Bow Tent, He was Born in 1929 on Shewallion Moor in Ayrshire. In my blood line I have McCallums,Stewarts & McLarens. I also have McPhees and Drummonds in there too. I have McCallums & Stewarts that married into each others family lots of times ie 1st Cousins Marrying 1st Cousins.

My descendants are all from a large Travelling family and from 1780s-1940s they were travelling between Kilfinnan-Dundee. Between the 1851-1915 they were mostly living around the Balfron & Drymen areas of Scotland, But as you can imagine they were living all over the place Between Dumbartonshire & Stirlingshire. They all lived mainly in Bow Tents and Lived and worked on the Farms, Their Jobs were Spoon Makers,Basket Makers, Tinsmiths etc & the women were mostly Hawkers, selling their Husbands Goods door to door and in the Towns & Villages.

At the moment i am the first person to have traced my family line, I have met Two Cousins through my research and i would love to try and trace any one who might be related to me. I would also like to hear from anyone who is still from the travelling comunity who might know of any of my descendants or even see a picture of any of them.

If you have any one in your tree that is from these areas or infact had any of these Professions please get in contact with me, it would be great to exchange trees. If anyone would like any info on any of the people on my tree, give me a shout.

I am particularly interested in the family names of McCallum,Stewart & McLaren.


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Garry McCallum

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Re: Tinkers in Scotland,Basket Makers,Hawkers & Tinsmiths
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 March 15 08:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Guys

I come from a long line of traditional Travellers in Scotland. My Grandfather Edward McCallum was the last person in our family to be Born in a Bow Tent, He was Born in 1929 on Shewallion Moor in Ayrshire. In my blood line I have McCallums,Stewarts & McLarens. I also have McPhees and Drummonds in there too. I have McCallums & Stewarts that married into each others family lots of times ie 1st Cousins Marrying 1st Cousins.

My descendants are all from a large Travelling family and from 1780s-1940s they were travelling between Kilfinnan-Dundee. Between the 1851-1915 they were mostly living around the Balfron & Drymen areas of Scotland, But as you can imagine they were living all over the place Between Dumbartonshire & Stirlingshire. They all lived mainly in Bow Tents and Lived and worked on the Farms, Their Jobs were Spoon Makers,Basket Makers, Tinsmiths etc & the women were mostly Hawkers, selling their Husbands Goods door to door and in the Towns & Villages.

At the moment i am the first person to have traced my family line, I have met Two Cousins through my research and i would love to try and trace any one who might be related to me. I would also like to hear from anyone who is still from the travelling comunity who might know of any of my descendants or even see a picture of any of them.

If you have any one in your tree that is from these areas or infact had any of these Professions please get in contact with me, it would be great to exchange trees. If anyone would like any info on any of the people on my tree, give me a shout.

I am particularly interested in the family names of McCallum,Stewart & McLaren.


Kind Regards

Garry McCallum

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Re: Tinkers in Scotland,Basket Makers,Hawkers & Tinsmiths
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 February 17 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Garry,

I know this post is old but I have strong McLaren and Tinky ties in the Dundee area within my family tree. Feel free to email me for more info.

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Steven

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Re: Tinkers in Scotland,Basket Makers,Hawkers & Tinsmiths
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 10:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Steven,

Yes, I would like to speak with you.


Cheers!
Garry


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Re: Tinkers in Scotland,Basket Makers,Hawkers & Tinsmiths
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat Steven,

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Re: Tinkers in Scotland,Basket Makers,Hawkers & Tinsmiths
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 18:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Garry,

Please try to PM me now, it should work... let me know if it doesn't.

I have attached a photo of the McLaren family (one line of it anyway...). The older couple on the left is believed to be John (Jock) McLaren (~1874) and his wife Betsy McLaren (~1868), my great great grand parents. The lad 3rd from.the right is believed to be Peter McLaren ~1896 (my great grand father). Peter had a string of kids to his wife Isabella McArthur ~1894, but one was my grand father also named Peter McLaren -1930. They were all in the Barry, Arbroath, Dundee area....

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Re: Tinkers in Scotland,Basket Makers,Hawkers & Tinsmiths
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 20 August 24 06:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Garry, I am trying this as a last resort, but we are looking for a Duncan Stewart born 1795 who married a Janet Adams (still confirming whether she was married previously to Willson). In the 1841 Census Duncan is listed with his family as a Hawker as an occupation. We just don't know or are trying to find his parents.   We too also have Drummonds and McPhee's in our family.  In the 1851 census he is listed as being a yeast dealer. 

Janet Adam was from Comrie, we thing that perhaps Duncan was too but can find no evidence.  There was a thought that his father and mother were Robert Stewart of Ardvolich and Mary Dochart but Y700DNA discounts this, we also have matches to the Livingstone family and I have found a Duncan Stewart born in 1795 to Mary McViccars and John Stewart, they had three children but Mary McViccars died and John went on and married Mary Livingstone from Clan Livingstone and had several children.  I have the names etc somewhere.  When I just couldn't seem to get anywhere I decided to do a search on the internet for Hawkers in Scotland and your post came up. The question I wanted to ask is if he was a Hawker in 1841 would this have necessarily been his occupation before he moved to Scotland.  He had children with Janet from 1824, their first a daughter Ann Stewart who married an Alfred Viccars.  They moved to Australia at the end of 1851 I think, and that is where I have lost Duncan, the family were there and it appears that he died there but I just can't find his death certificate.  If you wish to get in touch please do.  Regards Jeanette