Looking for the RUSSELL family of Lanarkshire area

[MonicaL]

That's great Sancti, we are on the right lines then 

Monica

[Biddydi]

Monica and Sancti:

Thank you so very much for all the wonderful information you have provided to me regarding my mother's family in Scotland.

As I am very new at this, I am finding it a bit overwhelming but also very exciting.

Because I am new, I find it a bit scary ordering documents online for security reasons as you may well understand, but I will give it a try, starting with my mother's (Jemima) birth certificate together with a copy of the marriage certificate of Robert Russell and Jane Scott Jack (if I can't come up with it another way).

All your researching is most appreciated.

Biddydi

[MonicaL]

Hi Dianne

I am excited for you about to start your great discoveries of your mother's family! Scotlands People is the official site for BMDs which works in conjunction with the General Records Office of Scotland, so your transactions on the site are secure.

I've got to pop out now but I can post some census information for Jane Jack and Robert Russell with their respective families later, or someone else may do so in the meantime 

Monica

[sancti]

Biddydi, I sent you a pm offering to send the marriage certificate but I need you to reply to it with your email address

[MonicaL]

I think sometimes being new to RootsChat, PMs can be confusing (I remember when I first got one and didn't know what to do with the box that popped up  ).

Dianne, you will get a notification in a message box in the centre of the page when someone sends you a personal message. If you click on it, it will take you through the PM service which works very much like all email services with an in/out box.

To see your message box, go to the top of the page and you will see:

   Welcome back, Biddydi , you have XX messages, X are new.

If you click on this link, it will take you through to the PM section where you can see all your messages. You can reply to individual messages from there.

To send someone a PM, just click on the small green scroll under someone's name and it will take you also to the PM service.

PMs are a good way to exchange personal info including personal emails 

Monica

[MonicaL]

Right, some family info on the Russells and Jacks...

Firstly on the Russells. I think Robert Russell is likely to have been the first born to Elizabeth Cowan and James Russell. There is a member submitted entry for their marriage on IGI on 8 October 1854 in Bothwell. Their childrens births showing on IGI and will also be on Scotlands People statutory birth registers. All showing as born in Bothwell except for James and Charles:

1. Robert 28 Nov. 1855
2. John 29 April 1857...likely died young and name re-used
3. James 19 June 1859 Kilsyth, Stirling
4. Charles 16 March 1861 Kilsyth, Stirling
5. Margaret 15 Feb. 1863
6. William 16 Dec. 1864
7. Jeanie  28 March 1867
8. Agnes 19 March 1869
9. Elizabeth 26 Jan. 1871
10. John 17 March 1873

Some censuses for the family. Firstly, 1861:

James Russel 33, iron miner b. Bothwell
Elizabeth Russel 27 b. Bothwell
Robert Russel 6
John Russel 4
James Russel 2
Charles Russel 1 Month

Address:    Low Banton, Kilsyth Stirlingshire

1871:

James Russell 44, coal miner b. Newarthill
Elizabeth Russell 36 b. Newarthill
Robert Russell 15 coal miner b. Newarthill
James Russell 11
Charles Russell 10
Margaret Russell 8
Janet Russell 4
William Russell 8
Agnes Russell 2
Elizabeth Russell 2 Months

Address:    ?? North Road, Holytown, Bothwell Lanarkshire

1881:

James Russell 54, coal miner
Robert Russell 26, coal miner
James Russell 22, coal miner
Charles Russell 20, coal miner
Margret Russell 18
William Russell 16, coal miner
Jeanie Russell 14
Agnes Russell 12
Elizabeth Russell 10
John Russell 8

Address: Main Street, Holytown, Bothwell Lanarkshire

I haven't got access to the original census images (Scotlands People is the only source for these) and the transcript I am looking at does not show marital status, but I am wondering whether the 1881 census would show James Snr as a widower. Possible death for an Elizabeth Cowan/Russell in 1876 b. 1834 in Lanarkshire.

Monica

[MonicaL]

James Jack and Jane Craig married on the first year of official registration in Scotland, in 1855. Marriage date is showing as 8 June 1855 in Bothwell on IGI, an image of this will be available on SP. As with Robert Russell, Jane Scott Jack looks to be the eldest born. Children showing to them on IGI, all in Bothwell, Lanarkshire:

1. Jane SCOTT JACK 26 SEP 1856
2. William JACK 19 NOV 1858
3. Helen THOMSON JACK 17 OCT 1860
4. Robert CRAIG JACK 2 MAR 1863
5. James HILL JACK 9 MAY 1865
6. Robert CRAIG JACK 11 OCT 1867
7. Mary HILL JACK13 SEP 1869
8. Martha CRAIG JACK 30 NOV 1871
9. George THOMSON JACK 21 JAN 1874

For the censuses, firstly 1861. Not sure about the ages for parents, seem mightly young to have married at around 15 going these ages:

James Jack 20, coal miner b. Bothwell
Jean Jack 21 b. Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Jean Jack 5
Helen Jack 6 Months

Address: Hamilton Rd, Holytown, Bothwell Lanarkshire

1871:

James Jack 37, coal miner
Jane Jack 32
John Jack 10
James Jack 5
Robert Jack 3
Mary Jack 1

Address: Manse, Holytown, Bothwell Lanarkshire

For 1881 there is this entry:

James Jack 47 coal miner b. Newarthill
Jane Jack 43 b. Carnwarth
James H Jack 15 coal miner
Robert C Jack 13 coal miner
Mary H Jack 11
George T Jack 7
Elisabeth C Jack 5
William Jack 2
Jane Scott Finlay 4, granddaughter b. Newarthill

Address: Main Street, Holytown, Bothwell Lanarkshire

Monica

[MonicaL]

Dianne, you have information overload here!

Just as background to help you get your bearings for now, have a look at these two links:

Counties of Scotland - www.scotlandsfamily.com/county-map.htm
Parishes within Lanarkshire - www.scotlandsfamily.com/parish-map-lanark.htm

Monica

[sancti]

There is a headstone in Holytown churchyard erected by Elizabeth Craig Jack but it needs cleaned to be able to read the rest of it.

LFHS are presently photographing and transcribing the headstones in the churchyard and cemetery.