Author Topic: Martin Smith family at Ballysax in 1861  (Read 3956 times)

Offline LynneOz

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Martin Smith family at Ballysax in 1861
« on: Wednesday 27 April 11 00:23 BST (UK) »
I am currently trying to track a family which includes:

Catherine Smith, who married a soldier from the 36th Regiment of Foot from Curragh Camp, Christopher George Garlick,  on 5 August 1861. Their marriage record indicates Catherine's father as Martin Smith. Catherine and George embarked with the regiment for India in August 1863. George served in West Bengal and Catherine produced two living children: Mary Zipporah and Christopher George Jr. George Snr was medically discharged from the regiment in 1874 and the family returned to England where both parents died. Zipporah went to live with an aunt and eventually married and settled in England. George Jr went to boarding school and then emigrated to Canada.

Catherine appears to have had a sister, Bridget Smith, born February 1842 in Co Limerick or Co Kildare. She married a private in the Commissariat, John William Bowen, on 24 December 1862 in Ballysax, Co Kildare. Bridget cites her father as Martin Smith and his occuaption as "servant". John and Bridget moved to Warrington in Manchester where John eventually became Chief Inspector of Police.

I think Martin's wife may have been Ann Duggan but the only marriage record I can find gives their marriage date too late for them to be the parents of Catherine.

It looks as though Martin may have been a servant working for someone who was in the military. It does not appear that he was a soldier himself. It is also likely he may have been Church of Ireland and not Catholic.

I have looked everywhere I can think of. Has anyone got any suggestions about where to go from here?

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Re: Martin Smith family at Ballysax in 1861
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 April 11 08:31 BST (UK) »
Since there are marriage references on the Civil BMD Index for both these marriages then they were not Catholic marriages (these were not registered until 1864) - so I would assume they were probably Church of Ireland, but the marriage certs will show the details of the church and denomination.

You didn't mention which sources you had tried already, but I would start with the parishes where the two marriages took place to see if there are any earlier mentions of Catherine or Bridget.



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Re: Martin Smith family at Ballysax in 1861
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 April 11 08:43 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Martin Smith family at Ballysax in 1861
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 September 12 16:17 BST (UK) »
Hello:
Bridget Smith and John William Bowen are my great grandparents.
I have been compiling a family tree for some time now, and had decided that I had exhausted the possibility of finding more Bowens or Bridget Smith's family.
John William and Bridget had at least 11 children that I have been able to trace and my grandfather was the second youngest, Alexander Job Bowen.  Looking forward to hearing from you.

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