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1871 look up please
« on: Monday 25 April 05 10:11 BST (UK) »
Would be grateful for a look up on 1871 census for

Peter BRISLAND    aged   43   born Glasgow
Mary       "                         45           Lyme Regis Dorset

and any children.

Should be in Chatham area BUT in 1891 surname was spelt BRISBAIND!  No sign of then 1881

Any help much appreciated

Thanks

Wilma

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Re: 1871 look up please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 April 05 10:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Wilma

It might be quite useful if you could post the whole of the 1891 census entry if they're not showing up easily in 1881 - can't see them in 1871 yet - as (taking a quick peek) I see that there is a whole host of family in 1891 and they may be easier to find with more clues.

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Re: 1871 look up please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 April 05 10:58 BST (UK) »
Try BRYSON for 1871

There is a Peter, wife Mary b dorset, children Wm, Edwin, Annie and Benjamin in chatham

Any good?

Arranroots  ;)

Ref: RG10/36 21 36
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: 1871 look up please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 April 05 11:01 BST (UK) »
OK

In 1891 Deptford

Peter BRISBAIND  head   63  boilermaker    born Glasgow
Mary         "          wife     65                                 Lyme Regis, Dorset
Anne Marie Vickers   dau   22                               Chatham, Kent
Geo Vickers son in law      28                                Deptford
Mary Ann Vickers  g child     5                                Deptford
Beatrice Vickers    g child     3                                    "
Florence Vickers    g child     1                                    "
Andrew Lynn         g son     19                               Chatham
Rosa Lynn             g dau     12                               Chatham


Peter and Mary died as BRISLAND and think I have found Peter on 1861 census minus wife and children living Poplar and again BRISLAND

Thanks

Wilma        


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Re: 1871 look up please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 April 05 11:10 BST (UK) »
1881

5 Cornwall Terrace, Deptford

Andrew SYM head mar 33 boiler maker b.Southampton Hants
Sarah Ann 30 b.Chatham
William son 12 b.Chatham
Andrew son 9 b.Chatham
Albert son 7 b.Hull Yorkshire
Frederick son 5 b.Chatham
Benjamin son 3 b.Chatham
Rose Fanny dau 1 b.Chatham

RG11/0718 folio 8 page 10

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Re: 1871 look up please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 April 05 11:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that.   Hadn't got as far as trying different surnames for that family.

Very grateful

Wilma

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Re: 1871 look up please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 April 05 11:17 BST (UK) »
In 1871 the SYM family are living in the same property as the BRYSONs that Arranroots has found (see above posting) which would almost certainly clarify that it is the same family that you have listed in 1891:

1871

31 Prospect Row, Chatham

Andrew SYM head mar 23 boiler maker b.Southampton Hants
Sarah wife 20 b.Chatham
William son 2 b.Chatham

RG10/911 folio 21 page 36

BRISLAND doesn't appear to be a Medway name looking at the freebmd GRO index  ???

Andrew SYM married (possibly) Sarah Ann THOMAS 1868 Medway RD.

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Re: 1871 look up please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 April 05 11:20 BST (UK) »
Ref: RG10/36 21 36

BRYSON Peter  H M 42 - boiler maker - b Scotland
BRYSON Mary F W M 46 - b Dorset Leides (?)
BRYSON William R son 9 - scholar - b Kent Old Brompton
BRYSON Edwin J son 6 - scholar - b Kent Chatham
BRYSON Annie M dau 2 - b ditto
BRYSON Benjamin son 17 - labourer - b Hants Southampton

Address: 31 Prospect Row, Chatham

The surname is clearly written BRYSON on the original.  don't know why Benjamin features at the bottom of the list!

They are sharing the house with an Andrew, Sarah and Wm SYM (missed the significance of this family??)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: 1871 look up please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 April 05 11:21 BST (UK) »
1881

4 Cornwall Terrace, Deptford (next door to the SYM family)

Fanny BRYSON head mar 56 boiler maker's wife b.Bere Regis Dorset
William son 19 boiler maker
Eddie son 16
Annie dau 13
Flora dau 10

All children born Chatham

RG11/0718 folio 9 page 11

So .................... is this the family that you are looking for  ???

Best wishes

Casalguidi

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