Patrick Gordon ... brick wall?

[originQuest]

I am trying to trace my ancestor's family.

Patrick Gordon died in in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire in April 1913, aged 37.

In 1896 he married Elizabeth Ann McCabe.

In 1901 and 1911, they are living in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire with their family.

Patrick's grandson, who never knew him, beleived that Patrick Gordon was from Glasgow, Scotland.  So, according to the evidence above, Patrick Gordon was born c. mid 1870s in Glasgow, Scotland.

However, the 1901 and 1911 census state he was born in Middlesbrough, Yorkshire.

The 1896 marriage certificate states that Patrick's father was James Gordon, ironworker, deceased.

I can not find Patrick in 1891 or 1881 ... can anyone help me find more about him?  This is literally all of the information I have!

Thank you,

Peter

[Pels.]

Hi Peter,

In 1874 there's a possible birth for a Patrick Gordon registered in the Middlebrough area. If you contact Tees Valley Indexes using the link below, they will verify whether this particular one had a father by the name of James before you purchase the certificate.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0d8l/

Nothing lost in trying, good luck ! 

Kind regards,

Pels.

[originQuest]

Hi Pels!

Done!

Will supply the info when I receive it.

Thank you,

Peter

[Pels.]

I'm sure you'll have seen this and probably no bearing - but there's a James Gordon boarding in Middlesbrough in 1881, who was employed as an Iron Works Labourer. Although, this James was born in Ireland and the census claims he was unmarried.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=26460452

Like you, I've found no sign of Patrick - sincerely hoping someone else can.

Pels.

[originQuest]

Pels, no I had not seen this, and it seems to initially cause more confusion!  I will wait to here back from Middlesbrough Register Office and see what they say.   I find it strange how people can merely disappear.  Not sure how they did it to be honest.

Thank you for your kind words.

Peter

[Whipby]

Hi Peter

There is a 15 year old Patrick Gordon in Glasgow, Scotland in 1891.  His birthplace is given as Glasgow, Lanarkshire, he is a Rivet Boy and his widowed mother is Sarah Gordon, aged 37.  They are living at 33 Fountainwell Road, Glasgow Maryhill.  He is the oldest child listed and his siblings are Bridget 11, Mary 8, William 4 and Thomas 2.

Could this be your man before he came to Middlesbrough (assuming the Glasgow info to be correct)?

Unfortunately I can't find him 10 years previously in 1881 when he should be around 5 and presumably living with his parents or at least Sarah his mother, so can't confirm if this particular Patrick's father is a James.

But something else to consider?

whipby

[Glen Field]

There is a 15 year old Patrick Gordon in Glasgow, Scotland in 1891. ... Unfortunately I can't find him 10 years previously in 1881

In 1881, this person is transcribed as Patrick Jordan and his father is called Lawrence. I think that he can be eliminated from further consideration. GF

[Glen Field]

This link shows an interesting 1881 census entry.

In 1879 a John Donelly married an Ann Gordon at Middlesbrough.

The births for Rose Ann and Patrick were registered as Gordon

GF

[Glen Field]

The names of the witnesses and Patrick's address as shown on the 1896 marriage certificate might help. Patrick's sister, Rose Ann Gordon, married James Johnson in 1894. Perhaps one of them might have been a witness?

In 1891 the "Donnelly" family (as shown on the 1881 link) can be found (except Rose Ann) at reference RG12/4012/115/15 living at 56 Bulmer Street.

GF