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thomas shaw Mystery
« on: Thursday 02 June 11 21:33 BST (UK) »
I’m looking for any information regarding a Thomas Shaw born in 1821 in the 1840 census he’s a publican of what I think is the Heathcoat arms in Fenton with his wife Mary Shaw and children Richard Shaw and Samuel Shaw , but the census after that he disappears so does Mary . Richard and Samuel are in spittals workhouse. Thomas then reappears in the 1861 census in Stafford prison. Has anyone got any ideas whats happened or where I can look, thanks .

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Re: thomas shaw Mystery
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 June 11 22:31 BST (UK) »
hello
Firstly there are several people on GenesReunited interested in a Thomas Shaw birthdates around his maybe they may have information.
1851
As Richard and Samuel were in Workhouse aged 10 & 12 would seem Mother may have died??
was Thomas in prison then too?

Did you find him /them on 1871/
Theres is this one 1871 @ Queen St Tunstall Staffs
Thomas     Shaw  head  54   Cutler                      Born Staffs Burslem
Mary                    wife    53                                              "        "
 know ages are a bit out so tread carefully?
Wragg Sheffield/Rotherham
Noble  Sheffield/Derby
Kirk     Sheffield/Northumberland
Lenton Sheffield
Ward  Deryshire
Twigg Derbyshire

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Re: thomas shaw Mystery
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 June 11 22:52 BST (UK) »
You might also find that Staffordshire Record Office have records from Stafford Jail - giving details of sentence etc.  Once you have worked out when Thomas entered prison, you might be able to check local newspapers for details of the trial etc.

Also, Ancestry have criminal registers on line - I had a quick look and there are a few Thomas Shaws knocking about  in Staffordshire, but as yet I haven't seen one who I think is definitely yours!

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Re: thomas shaw Mystery
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 June 11 09:32 BST (UK) »
Are you sure that the Thomas in 1861 is the same as the one on the 1841?  He is listed as still being married, suggesting if he is the right chap that Mary is still alive somewhere.
RG9; Piece: 1907; Folio: 151; Page: 23

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Re: thomas shaw Mystery
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 June 11 10:04 BST (UK) »
staffordshire archives have some of their records online, and available for download.  These include some of the trial transcripts.  I think this is the record for the Thomas Shaw in prison on the 1861 census http://www.staffsnameindexes.org.uk/StartPage.aspx?Mode=Transcript&RecordID=13741&Surname=Shaw&Loc=&Fix=1&FromDate=1841&ToDate=1861&Index=A&PageID=4&RecordCount=60

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Re: thomas shaw Mystery
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 June 11 12:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the suggestions I am on Genes Reunited so I will have a look on there and thanks for the link to Staffordshire archives I’ve found one that maybe Thomas in 1842 I’m just waiting for it to come through, hopefully it will shed some light on what’s happening .
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