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1821 Census of Chiddingly
« on: Thursday 09 June 11 07:56 BST (UK) »
Would someone be good enough please to look up the 1821 Census of Chiddingly to see if there is a John French born 1755. I am looking for the names of his parents.

Thank you.

John...Sydney
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Dower - Co.Waterford. Ireland
Dodd - Co.Kildare. Ireland
Cotter - Co.Cork. Ireland
French, Sussex. U.K.
Pinning (Penning) - Lincolnshire. U.K.
Heath - Devon. U.K.
Bennett- Staffordshire. U.K.
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Re: 1821 Census of Chiddingly
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 June 11 08:08 BST (UK) »
The 1841 census was the first to include names, and nearly all returns prior to 1841 have been lost or destroyed.

If a census return for Chiddingley does survive, it will only name the head of the household, no of families, males and females.

A guide to pre-1842 census returns can be found at www.histpop.org/pre41/listings_a.pdf
and this indicates that the surviving returns for Chiddingley are held by Cambridge Group for the Study of Population and Social Structure (whoever they might be!)
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: 1821 Census of Chiddingly
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 June 11 11:31 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your reply. Greatly appreciated.

John...Sydney
O'Halloran, O'Brien - Limerick. Ireland
Dower - Co.Waterford. Ireland
Dodd - Co.Kildare. Ireland
Cotter - Co.Cork. Ireland
French, Sussex. U.K.
Pinning (Penning) - Lincolnshire. U.K.
Heath - Devon. U.K.
Bennett- Staffordshire. U.K.
Dodge - Kent. U.K
Coffey - Co.Cork, Ireland.
Connolly- Co. Dublin, Ireland
Walton - Co. Durham U.K.
Stoker - Co. Durham. U.K.
Henderson - Co. Durham U.K

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Re: 1821 Census of Chiddingly
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 June 11 11:51 BST (UK) »
Hi John

The Chiddingly Parish Registers have been extracted on to the IGI for the time frame you are looking at, plenty of Frenchs but  no John  baptised there c1755, see (if you've not already come across it)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/

which allows you to search extracted IGI records by parish.

What else do you know about John eg where/when did he marry? What led you to think he may come from Chiddingley? if it is the submitted records on the IGI they appear to be wild member guesses - I would always be wary of these particularly if they give only a year.

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Re: 1821 Census of Chiddingly
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 June 11 16:59 BST (UK) »
Hi John

I have a copy on cd of the 1821 census for Chiddingly.

There was a John French but his age is slightly out.  Unfortunately it does not give place of birth

cottage at Holmes Hill
John French, 63 head gardener
Catherine French, 62, wife
Henry French, 22, son

That makes a birth of 1758

I checked the Sussex Marriage Index and possible marriage for John and Catherine

at Mayfield on 11 July 1783 to Katherine Lavender

Also on the SFHG baptisms there was a John French baptised on 12 March 1758 to William and Grace French at Selmeston

Neither mayfield or Selmeston are that far from Chiddingly and those names might give some clues, although they might not tie in or be correct, do you have children's names? 

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Re: 1821 Census of Chiddingly
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 June 11 02:07 BST (UK) »
Hello Kerry and Jan,

Thank you very much for the information. I feel what Kerry sent to me is pretty close to the mark which obviously needs some clarification. The trouble is there are too many John French's. If this is my John then it appears his parents may have been  William French (b) 1724 and Grace Taylor (b) 1725. I could just take information from other peoples family trees but I need to ensure what I find is correct.

John married Catherine Lavender on 11 July 1783 in Mayfield and died in 1838 at Littlington. We have his death certificate but there is very little other infomation in it.

Once again thank you all for your help.

John...Sydney
O'Halloran, O'Brien - Limerick. Ireland
Dower - Co.Waterford. Ireland
Dodd - Co.Kildare. Ireland
Cotter - Co.Cork. Ireland
French, Sussex. U.K.
Pinning (Penning) - Lincolnshire. U.K.
Heath - Devon. U.K.
Bennett- Staffordshire. U.K.
Dodge - Kent. U.K
Coffey - Co.Cork, Ireland.
Connolly- Co. Dublin, Ireland
Walton - Co. Durham U.K.
Stoker - Co. Durham. U.K.
Henderson - Co. Durham U.K

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Re: 1821 Census of Chiddingly
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 February 14 13:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I've just found this message whilst googling and you may have found this out by now but
there is another alternative for John's parents.
John French & Elizabeth Apps married in Ticehurst. 16.01.1755 according to the IGI
Son John bap in Ticehurst 07.09.1755.

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Re: 1821 Census of Chiddingly
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 February 14 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Carol,

My John French is the son of Henry French and Mary Clapson, Henry's parents were Joseph born 1748 and Lydia Goss.
There is another John French allegedly born about 1755 in Chiddingly, his wife was Catherine Lavender, there is a lady in Sussex researching that family, her name is Ann French.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, Good luck!

Pam
O'Halloran, O'Brien - Limerick. Ireland
Dower - Co.Waterford. Ireland
Dodd - Co.Kildare. Ireland
Cotter - Co.Cork. Ireland
French, Sussex. U.K.
Pinning (Penning) - Lincolnshire. U.K.
Heath - Devon. U.K.
Bennett- Staffordshire. U.K.
Dodge - Kent. U.K
Coffey - Co.Cork, Ireland.
Connolly- Co. Dublin, Ireland
Walton - Co. Durham U.K.
Stoker - Co. Durham. U.K.
Henderson - Co. Durham U.K