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Emma Hornby nee Shenstone?
« on: Sunday 26 June 11 16:15 BST (UK) »
Emma Shenstone was born in 1855 in Coventry and married George Hornby in 1875 again in Coventry.
They had 2 children Eliza b. 1875 and Amy b.1876, before George left to join the army and never returned he didn't die he just never returned to the family, he ended up in Prescot where he was born by 1891 census.

Emma by 1881 had a loger called Richard Barton who  fathered her 3rd child Thomas but Thomas is down as Hornby ib the census Thomas born 1880, we know he was Richards child as we have the birth certificate.

Emma and Richard we cannot find a marriage for nor can we find either of then in any other census after 1881, any help finding them would be great.

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Re: Emma Hornby nee Shenstone?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 June 11 16:44 BST (UK) »
1891:
RG12/2449/141/2
He's mistranscribed as Darton & Emma is still Hornby.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
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Re: Emma Hornby nee Shenstone?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 June 11 17:41 BST (UK) »
tanks for that, but i still can't find her after that, i now think Richard died in 1893 but there is still no record of a death , marriage, nor is she in the census.

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Re: Emma Hornby nee Shenstone?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 June 11 18:35 BST (UK) »
This is a strange one!;
1901 Census
22 Raglan St,
Coventry, Warwickshire
RG13/2912/96/37
Mark STOKES, 80, Head, Widower, Tinman
Emma BARTON, 46, Daug, Widow
Thomas M Barton, 18, Grandson, Printers Clerk
Arthur Barton, 14, Grandson, Iron Turner
Maria STOKES, 68, Sister in Law, Widow
All born Coventry


EDIT, Scrap that one Emma Stokes is Mar to a Thomas Barton 1891.
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Re: Emma Hornby nee Shenstone?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 June 11 19:00 BST (UK) »
Most of them are still around in 1901
Amy Hornby m. George Loakes,1895,Cov. & can be found under that name in 1901
Elizabeth Hornby m. Ernest Howes,1894,Cov. & can be found under that name in 1901,also in the household is Arthur Barton (listed as visitor) aged 17 who almost certainly is Arthur Hornby.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: Emma Hornby nee Shenstone?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 June 11 19:22 BST (UK) »
.....  on FREEBMD.   

Richard Barton and Emily Hornby. marriage  Coventry June qtr 1891

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NAMES & PLACES OF INTEREST:

EDWIN/MOISEY - Evesham (Worcs) and Birmmingam (Warks)
GIBBONS/GURNEY - Rugby (Warks),  Hackney (London)
HUGHES - Bromsgrove (Worcs)
LEACH/HEYWOOD/STANLEY/CATHRO - Toronto (Ontario, CANADA)
LUNE/LOON/LOONE - Birmingham, Fillongley and Coleshill (Warks), Nelson (Lancs)
VINCENT/HUNTER - Bloxham (Oxon), Kenilworth (Warks) and Huyton, Roby near Liverpool
 
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Re: Emma Hornby nee Shenstone?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 June 11 19:52 BST (UK) »
Hi all  :)

And this marriage, again as Emily?

Sep 1897 Coventry 6d 901
Emily Barton to possibly Thomas Elson

1901
RG13/2906 102 23
Coventry
8 ct 2 Much Park St
2 rooms occupied

Thomas Elson, head, 70, General Labourer, b. Coventry
Emma Elson, wife, 48, b. do.
Ada Barton, visitor, 9, b. do.
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Re: Emma Hornby nee Shenstone?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 26 June 11 20:04 BST (UK) »
yes I saw that too Tati and a subsequent death for Emily Elson aged 51 Coventry in 1907.  But...there is another Emily Barton lurking in Coventry, a marriage in 1876, I've been trying to find her in order to verify that the Elson marriage is the correct one.

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NAMES & PLACES OF INTEREST:

EDWIN/MOISEY - Evesham (Worcs) and Birmmingam (Warks)
GIBBONS/GURNEY - Rugby (Warks),  Hackney (London)
HUGHES - Bromsgrove (Worcs)
LEACH/HEYWOOD/STANLEY/CATHRO - Toronto (Ontario, CANADA)
LUNE/LOON/LOONE - Birmingham, Fillongley and Coleshill (Warks), Nelson (Lancs)
VINCENT/HUNTER - Bloxham (Oxon), Kenilworth (Warks) and Huyton, Roby near Liverpool
 
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Re: Emma Hornby nee Shenstone?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 June 11 20:27 BST (UK) »
Living at 11 Earl Court Much Park St. is Daughter Elizabeth & family where Arthur Barton aged 17 is a visitor who must be Arthur Hornby.
Edit:
Ada Barton listed as visitor in 1901 was in fact the daughter of Richard & Emily(Emma),so Tati's family is the right one.
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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/