Carsons from Dumfries

[darlomac]

Does any one in the Brighton area have any connection to a Janet Carson nee Tait who was from Dumfries. Janet is my great grandmother and I know there is a Brighton connection to the family but I have no idea how other than a postcard sent to her in Scotland in June/July 1905 from Chrissie. I have only just found out that Janet died in Brighton in September 1905 so can only assume that the connection was her son. Any help would be wonderful

[suzard]

Could "Chrissie " be short for Christopher?

Or was the card from a female??

Suz

[suzard]

Copuld this be "Chrissie"??
Probate
Christopher Carson of 186 Freshfield Rd Brighton died 27 Oct 1937 Probate 22 Nov to Mary Ann Carson widow
Effects £109 13s 3d
 by the way, it looks like this Christopher was b Mayo Ireland and was  a naval man

Suz

[Roy G]

A Christopher Carson (born Ireland c1851) married a Mary Ann Sumner in Romney Marsh in 1879. 
They had at least 7 children born between 1884 and 1902 and were living in the Brighton area at the time of the 1911 census, but may not have resided in Brighton itself. 

The 62 year old Janet Carson who died in Brighton in 1905 would have been of an age to be his sister in law.

Going by where Chritopher's children's births were registered, his married life started in Dungeness moved to the New Forest by 1893, then to the Lewes Area in 1896, and Newhaven District in 1902.  The 1901 census index I have lists them as residing in OVINGHAM, which I suspect to be Ovingdean on the Brighton outskirts.   The Lewes area births were in Telscombe and I wonder as he was a former naval man, he may have resided at the Coastguards Cottages, or indeed have been employed in that capacity at one time.  Roy G

[crimea1854]

This looks to be your man:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Coastguards/C.html

and there are two service records, one pre the other post 1873 here:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/search-results.asp?searchType=browserefine&mediaarray=*&first_date=&last_date=&CatID=15&pageCount=7&query=last%5Fname%3Dcarson&queryType=1&pageNumber=2&sortSpec=first%5Fdate+asc

Martin

[darlomac]

A very big thank you to the lovely people who replied to me. As far as I am aware Chrissie is a girl and my mother thought that Janet Carson was grand mother to Chrissie. The only children of Janet and Hugh Carson that I have been able to find are William (died a batchelor in 1930). Mary Agnes Carson (my grandmother) Hugh Carson (no trace after 1901) and Janet Carson who died in infancy.  As far as I know Hugh Carson's father was a William Carson who had a lot of children but they were all born in Scotland. William was born around 1803 in Scotland and his father was Thomas Carson. I also know that a family member was living in the Brighton area in 1918 as he attended the funeral of my grandmother's aunt Miss Agnes Carson who died in Dumfries Infirmary but he was only refered to as Mr Carson.

[suzard]

.I have only just found out that Janet died in Brighton in September 1905 so can only assume that the connection was her son.

If you could purchase the death cert of Janet (1905 Brighton) that would give address where she died, name of informant -so it may help find Chrissie -or her family


Suz

[darlomac]

Was I ever barking up the wrong tree. I now have my grandmother's death certificate and she was staying with her son Robert Gibson and his family at 31 Sydney Street Brighton. Thanks to the 1901 census I have now found the family and Chrissie. According to the census Robert was a draper. Is there anyone out there with a connection to the Gibsons who may know a little about his birth. I have found him on all the early census records but cannot find his birth record. He must have been illigitamate as my grandmother was Janet Tait (her marriage certificate shows her as a spinster) and her married name was Carson.

[Roy G]

Robert (born 1867 and from Scotland) appears on the 1901 Brighton census as you said, and can be found in the 1911 census, although he seems to have moved into the Steyning district (Hove or Preston).  His wife and daughter were both called Christina, hence Chrissie. 
Robert married Christina Sutherland in Brighton in the September quarter of 1891.
GRO ref 2b 410
A copy of that certificate could name his father or give some idea of his parentage. 

It may be a false trail, but the 1881 census has a Robert Gibson born Scotland 1865, Tailor's Apprentice living in Cumberland with his widower father (a tailor & draper) and 8 siblings.

You also say you can't find a record of Robert's birth, I just have to ask, "You have been looking for it amongst Scottish records not the English?" 
One census gives his birthplace as Crocketford Kirkcudbright, would that location have featured in Janet's history?  It is not too far from Dumfries.  Roy G