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Last chance saloon?
« on: Wednesday 29 June 11 14:34 BST (UK) »
Looking for parish register marriage of James Bibby to Elizabeth Richards c1875.
Marriage not found on FreeBMD or IGI.
Both living in Hull in 1881.
Elizabeth living in Whitby in 1871.
James not found on any census before 81.
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Re: Last chance saloon?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 June 11 17:14 BST (UK) »
Hi.... The nearest I could find was this one on freebmd...there wasn't a match that I could find on Ancestry:




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Marriages Sep 1882   (>99%)
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Bibby  Thomas    Swansea  11a 825   
JONES  David     Swansea  11a 825   
Phillips  Mary     Swansea  11a 825   
Richards  Emily     Swansea  11a 825   

There are 3 marriages on Yorkshirebmd for James Bibby but not with the spouse you mention.

 Do you know if they married in Hull.

Carol
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: Last chance saloon?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 June 11 17:38 BST (UK) »
1881 census:
Reference RG11, Piece 4747, Folio 92, Page 24
7 Howe Street, Sutton & Stone ferry, Sculcoates, Yorkshire

Bibby, James  Head  M  55  Chelsea Pensioner and Labourer Iron Ship Yard  b Croydon, Surrey
Bibby, Elizabeth  Wife  F  33  b Whitby, Yorkshire
Bibby, Alfred  Son  M  11  b Hull
Bibby, James  Son  M  5  b Hull
Bibby, Ellen  Daughter  F  1  b Hull


Therefore I presume a marriage took place c 1869?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Last chance saloon?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 June 11 17:53 BST (UK) »
KG - No. Alfred was Elizabeth's son from a previous marriage. You can see them in 1871.
Carol - I don't know where they were married.
I believe this is going to need a parish register lookup starting with Hull or Whitby.
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Re: Last chance saloon?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 June 11 19:07 BST (UK) »
So what was Elizabeth's previous marriage?
What was Alfred's surname when born?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Last chance saloon?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 June 11 19:42 BST (UK) »
Is this her first Marriage:

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1870
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WOODWARD James RICHARDS Elizabeth All Saints, Sculcoates Hull HAS/18/1


If so...then we should be looking for a Bibby/ Woodward marriage.

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CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: Last chance saloon?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 30 June 11 12:00 BST (UK) »
Scrap that one...This must be her first marriage:

 
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Marriages Dec 1870   (>99%)
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Hamnett  Mary    Whitby  9d 858   
MASON  Thomas     Whitby  9d 858   
MOSS  Elizabeth     Whitby  9d 858   
RICHARDS  Oliver     Whitby  9d 858   

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CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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Re: Last chance saloon?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 June 11 12:58 BST (UK) »
That's correct, she married Oliver Richards.
But I'm not looking for her ancestry.
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 June 11 13:00 BST (UK) »
Fair enough  ::)
CAPES Hull. KIRK  Leeds, Hull. JONES  Wales,  Lancashire. CARROLL Ireland, Lancashire, U.S.A. BROUGHTON Leicester, Goole, Hull BORRILL  Lincolnshire, Durham, Hull. GROOM  Wishbech, Hull. ANTHONY St. John's Nfld. BUCKNALL Lincolnshire, Hull. BUTT Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. PARSONS  Western Bay, Newfoundland. MONAGHAN  Ireland, U.S.A. PERRY Cheshire, Liverpool.
 
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