John Allen

[spot54]

Looking to Trace my Grandfathers Parents my Grandfather was john Allen and according to his Death Cert was born 25-12 1884 Belfast I was at GRONI and they say there were no John Allens born on that date in the 1911 Census he is down as 28 and his Wife 29 his wife was Born 1881 so that leaves him born 1882   He Joined the Irish Guards in 1915 and is down as 28 and when he left it in 1919 he is down as 36   He was Married in st Peters Belfast on 28-12-1907 His Father is down as John Allen Tenter and is Deceased    Any help you could give me would be great    spot 54

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
   There is a John Allen in the 1911 census with his wife Alice living with his in-laws. See http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Falls__Belfast_/Plevna_Street/181600/

Regards

[spot54]

Hi,
   There is a John Allen in the 1911 census with his wife Alice living with his in-laws. See http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Falls__Belfast_/Plevna_Street/181600/

Regards

Kingerswell    Yes thats them they lived in that street all there Married life She Died 1956 and he Died 1978 at a good old age btw they moved to 69 Plevna street

[aghadowey]

Since John Allen's father is listed as a tenter on the 1907 marriage certificate I'm wondering about this family in 1901 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Jersey_Street/948920

Some John (right age to be the correct John Allen) is listed as "Tradesman Tenter" (tenter is fairly uncommon to find in census records). This family is also living in the same area as John and Alice Allen were in 1911.
Children Charlotte and George living here in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Woodvale/Glenwood_Street/179050

[spot54]

Since John Allen's father is listed as a tenter on the 1907 marriage certificate I'm wondering about this family in 1901 census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Shankhill/Jersey_Street/948920

Some John (right age to be the correct John Allen) is listed as "Tradesman Tenter" (tenter is fairly uncommon to find in census records). This family is also living in the same area as John and Alice Allen were in 1911.
Children Charlotte and George living here in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Woodvale/Glenwood_Street/179050

aghadowey     Thanks for your Reply but I dont think its him John Senior would have been the Tenter and there is a big Family in that house my Mother used to say that her Father was an Orphan and Never Mentioned any Brothers or Sisters  of his Im Starting to believe that he might have been Adopted    My Mother in now RIP but would say she had relatives in Grosvener Place and there was Allens there but I dont know the connection                                                       

[aghadowey]

I was told my grandfather was English, an orphan and an only child- parents both Irish, youngest of 10 children and mother died just after he was born but father died when he was about 13.

That may not be the correct family but keep a note of it just in case they later turn out to connected.

[spot54]

aghadowey    was on the Belfast city council site and looked at the city cemetary graves and  got John allen 25 Jersey st died 26 april 1903 age 64   and his son John Edward died 25 October 1902 age 20 both in grave G2 496  so im back to the drawing board

[bloodties]

hi
on lennonwylie site 1907 ulster/belfast street directory there is a j.t.allen tenter living at 4 clara avenue www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1907ab.htm

  regards

[aghadowey]

on lennonwylie site 1907 ulster/belfast street directory there is a j.t.allen tenter living at 4 clara avenue www.lennonwylie.co.uk/alphanames1907ab.htm

The Allen family are here in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Pottinger/Clara_Avenue/1220319
However, John Thomas Allen is aged 39 and has a 2 year old son John so doesn't look like the correct family.