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Thomas Bayley... of Withington?
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Re: Thomas Bayley... of Withington?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 August 11 11:05 BST (UK) »
You have given no dates, so I can't tell if this is the person referred to.

Who was Who have a Thomas Bayley 1846-1906 who was MP for Chesterfield division of Derbyshire from 1892. They have him as married to Annie in 1874 who was the second daughter of Henry Farmer of Lenton. She died 1904 & they had two sons & two daughters. This Thomas was born 3 June 1846 also in Lenton, Notts - his father was also Thomas (no details of his mother).

There's a short wiki piece on this Thomas & I'm not finding another MP with this name at the moment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bayley

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Re: Thomas Bayley... of Withington?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 August 11 16:31 BST (UK) »
Dictionary of National Biography have an earlier one;
Thomas Butterworth Bayley (1744-1802); born in Manchester, son of Daniel Bayley (Daniel Baylet was trustee of Cross St Unitarian chapel); married Mary Leggatt, daughter of Vincent Leggatt.

Archive.org have a scaned copy of "The Family of Bayley of Manchester and Hope" writted 1894, which might be helpful
http://www.archive.org/details/familyofbayleyof00axon
There is a chapter on the Bayleys of Withington which says James Bayley of Withington (1705-1769) had four sons (and ten daughters) The four sons were:
Samuel, had one daughter, Anne
James, died in infancy
John, died unmarried
James, had no children

If that pedigree is correct, it's looking doubtful that your Thomas is a direct descendant of the Withington Bayleys, unless there was an illegitimate line - but the book may have some other lines you could investigate.

Good luck
 :) Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Thomas Bayley... of Withington?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 August 11 16:37 BST (UK) »
BarbaraH - I saw him & thought he was probably from the Withington family referred to but I didn't see mention of him as an MP, though he did end up in Derbyshire.

I wonder if this is a case of stories of similar-named families getting confused, as neither seems to match the OP's detail for a wife?


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Re: Thomas Bayley... of Withington?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 August 11 18:31 BST (UK) »
Hi mshrmh,

It looks as if Thomas Bayley and Bridget Dixie had a daughter Annabella in 1783 (various google sources seem to agree), so OP's Thomas would be about the same age as James Bayley of Withington, not a descendant as I was thinking.

The archive.org book has no mention of the surname Dixie, although it covers Bayleys of around that period, so if there is a connection with the Manchester/Eccles Bayleys, it doesn't seem to be a direct one.

 :) Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk