Bentley family(Kidderminster+Birmingham

[TedsNanna]

 
Hello everybody , from a newbie to this site !!
I'm  looking for the birth and/or  a 1901 census entry for Theresa (may be middle name ?)  Bentley.
From the 1911 census with an Aunt and Uncle, in Kidderminster,it  states she is age 14 and born in Birmingham. (Birth1896/1897 ?)Mothers name Georgina (or Georgiana).Theresa's marriage in 1920(Coventry), states fathers name as John Bentley,and her death in 1941 aged 43 (Coventry)also states her name as Theresa, but I cannot find any birth at the right time to fit the 1911 census...Her mother had separated from her husband ,William Bentley,and on his census entry for 1901,he states he is a widower,although Georgina was alive ,but not with him ! If any more info needed to help , I would be most grateful ,as I'm doing this tree as an 85th birthday gift for one of Theresa's sons
Thank you,in advance, and anticipation ? ! ?

[jim1]

Hello & welcome
A couple of questions:
How do you know her mother's name was Georgina?
If she says her father's name is John why do you believe it to be William?

jim

[TedsNanna]

Hello Jim,
Thank you for your prompt  reply .
The Australian part of the family (Georginas great-grandaughters ) both recall their respective parents speaking of the youngest daughter of the family, "Theresa" .
Because Georgina Bentley(nee Bragginton )had separated from William Bentley , also he was already deceased by the time Theresa married in 1920, she may not have known who her father was , and could have been one of the reasons for the parting of Georgina and William . Without a birth entry or certificate, I cannot confirm who her mother was either ! Her Marriage cert states that John Bentley was a tailor by profession .
I've tried  all different combinations of ways to find her on many sites ,naming different fathers names,just putting Theresa born 1896/1897 +no parents stated .....to no avail.
One train of thought from the Australian descendants was that Georgina and a very young Theresa  were possibly "looked after" by nuns at this time, but again, no concrete proof . When William died in July 1907, Georgina was free to marry again ,which she did, in October 1907 to James Turrall, in Coventry....but sadly she died in 1909.I'm sorry it seems rather vague, maybe she wasn't registered because of illegitemacy...,all conjecture I'm afraid Thanks, Jim ...for "listening " !
Kind regards,
Lesley

[lizdb]

Who are the aunt and Uncle she is with in 1911? (names, ages places of birth etc)

[lizdb]

I wonder if there was another generation -
I see Georgina Bragginton married William Bentley 20odd years before Theresa's birth
Oct/Nov/Dec 1877 Kidderminster 6c 385

What makes you think Theresa was a child of this marriage? Though you mention illegitimacy .....

[jim1]

The story so far is that in 1891 Georgina is with kids but no William & by 1901 William is with kids but no Georgina.
The last born was Leo c.1891 so Theresa must be the product of an affair.
It looks on the surface Georgina has run off with another man leaving Wiiliam with the kids or he's thrown her out.
William would have been unknown to Theresa & may have made up a name & occupation.
I think you are right in your assumptions & therefore her real father is going to remain a mystery.
Georgina & Theresa may have been looked after by nuns as they did run homes for such women.
I think you may have to stick with Georgina's family who are traceable.

jim

[lizdb]

Hmmm lots of assumptions there and no evidence!
Theresa's birth should be registered - whoever her parents are
Georgina and Theresa should be on a census - even if "looked after by nuns"

Going back to my previous question - who are the aunt and uncle?

[lizdb]

In 1901 William says he is a widower.

(possible death Jul/Aug/Sep 1893 Stoke on Trent, Georgina Bently age 39 - age not brilliant but who knows - may be a bad 33)

Perhaps she died in childbirth when having Leo. His prescence in 1901 as an 8 yr old rather indicates that they were not separated by 1891 (if at all)

At the moment there is notihng to link the Theresa on 1911 with the aunt and uncle, to this Bentley family. I would think that is what we need to pursue ... to tackle it from Theresa's end and find her parents - it could be that this family are a red herring!

[jim1]

I think Liz may be right,I understood that the info about them splitting came from her family but reading again I don't think it has.
Theresa in 1911 is with Rose & Leo (William's children) & listed as neice,is that correct?

jim