Author Topic: *COMPLETED* Burial or death records for St Marys the Mount, Walsall (post 1879)  (Read 4271 times)

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Hi,

Does anyone know where I can find the burial or death records for the Roman Catholic Church, St Mary's the Mount, Walsall?  I have been to the Arch-diocese archives in Birmingham and they don't have them.

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Re: Burial or death records for St Marys the Mount, Walsall (post 1879)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 27 August 11 09:02 BST (UK) »
Hi


When Catholic churches deposit their records they usually deposit them with the Catholic Archdioceses archives which is this case would be Birmingham. Their holdings are indexed online and as you say they don't hold them.

http://www.birminghamarchdiocesanarchives.org.uk/collection_detail.asp?collection=34


The Catholic National Library hold copies at least, if not the actual deposited registers. It looks to be the deposited registers

Burials 1826-1858

In many urban areas churchyards were shut in the 1850s and civic cemeteries opened to replace them. This may be the case for St Marys. The Catholic National Library is in Farnborough Hampshire

http://www.catholic-library.org.uk/registers.html


The surviving monumental inscriptions in the churchyard have been transcribed.

http://www.bmsgh-shop.org.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1417



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Valda
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*Complete* Burial or death records for St Marys the Mount, Walsall (post 1879)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 27 August 11 09:12 BST (UK) »
Thank you Valda for the reply.  The information is most useful and I will purchase the transcripts.

I think St Marys must have exceptions to the rule regarding burials as my GG Grandparents where buried their in the 1930's and my Grandfather's ashes were interred in 2005.  However, my G Grandparents were buried in the civic cemetery, so this is something I need to investigate as to why this happened.

As an aside I will be visiting the church to see on the off chance if they have the burial records that have not been passed onto the archdiocese.

Thanks again.

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Re: *COMPLETED* Burial or death records for St Marys the Mount, Walsall (post 1879)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 27 August 11 10:02 BST (UK) »
Hi


There are some photographs of gravestones in the churchyard online

http://www.blackcountrychurchyards.com/18127.html


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Re: *COMPLETED* Burial or death records for St Marys the Mount, Walsall (post 1879)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 27 August 11 10:37 BST (UK) »
I am sure someone will correct me if this is wrong.

I believe not all Catholics were buried in churchyards as many of the Catholic Churches did not have graveyards, I also believe St Mary's is one of the few to have a graveyard in the area.

I also have had some difficulty finding Catholic burials I have found two now one is in Broadlands Road but in the records online it states he had a Catholic burial the other is in the Church on the Green in Aldridge.

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Re: *COMPLETED* Burial or death records for St Marys the Mount, Walsall (post 1879)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 27 August 11 10:55 BST (UK) »
Hi


Many Catholic churches were not established until after the opening of the large civic cemeteries from the 1840/50s onwards. Until the Catholic Relief Act 1829 Catholics still faced legal restrictions in this country (like most non-conformists they could not marry in their own churches until 1st July 1837).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Emancipation

The numbers of Catholics in England began to grow again from the start of the French Revolution and particularly from the 1840s onwards with the start of the Irish famine, hence the need for many more Catholic churches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_in_England_and_Wales


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Valda
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