* COMPLETED *1841 census - Monkseaton

[heilanlassie]

I am trying to trace details of Benjamin Bell, born about 1831 in Walker, Northumberland.

I have found his whereabouts in 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, and 1891.

In trying to find him in the 1841 census, I have discovered a Benjamin Bell - age 10 - living at Seaton Villa(s) in the township of Monkseaton - and wonder if this could possibly be him.

The other people on the same census page are:

Elizabeth Elstad - age 60
Jane Simpson - age 25
Jane Morgan - age 15
Samuel Rutherford - age 18
Benjamin Bell - age 10

Could anyone help?
Maybe someone knows what Seaton Villa(s) were and why people with different surnames would be living at the same address.

[danuslave]

why people with different surnames would be living at the same address.

Firstly, the census only tells you who was there on that particular night - they may just have been visiting

The most obvious reason for different surnames would be grandchild or nephew of the Head of household.  Unfortunately the 1841 census is no help as it doesn't show relationships.   

Linda

[shilo]

Hello  heilanlassie

there is also another 1841 census with a Benjamin Bell
looking at him on the 1851 1861  etc possibly him

1841
HO107 Piece 820 Book 19
Castle (East Division), Tynemouth, Earsden, Northumberland
Issac Bell 40 coal miner
Jane Bell    35
Mary 15
Benjamin Bell 9   
Henry Bell 7   
Jane Bell    3
Benjamin Bell 68   
Elizabeth 63

Jackie

[shilo]

I couldn't find two birth for  Benjamin Bell  living at Northumberland it is as if one has disappeared could they be the same person
 
it's all a bit odd

but here is one for the one I found

Benjamin Bell
Christening 5 Nov 1831 at Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father Isaac Bell
Mother Jane

[2zpool]

The Benjamin Bell from the 1841 census entry in Earsdon is this is 1851

HO107/2412 folio 112 page 51

Seaton Delavel
Foreman's Row
Jane Bell, Head, Wid, 47, Northumberland Plessy
Benjamin Bell, Son, Unm, 19, Coal Miner, Northumberland Walker
Henry Bell, Son, 16, Coal Miner, Northumberland Walker
Jane Bell, Daur, 13, Northumberland Cowpen
Isaac Bell, Son, 9, Scholar, Northumberland Seaton Delavel
Isabella Bell, Daur, 6, Scholar, Northumberland Seaton Delavel
John Winright? lodger, Unm, Coal Miner, Unknown

One child was baptised in Horton:  Mary Ann Bell baptised 20 Apr 1824 d/o Isaac and Jane

And a marriage of Issac Bell and Jane Preacher in Horton 12 Oct 1822

Janis

[Michael Dixon]

H-lassie,

 The 1841 Bell details found by Shilo ( page ref Piece 820 Book 19 Folio12 Page 17-and Folio13 Page 18) showed the family in Foremans Row ( within the "Township" of Seaton Delaval, which was within the Parish of Earsdon.

 You have subsequent census details of Benjamin still living in Foremans Row
( he must have liked living in what was reputed to be the longest miners row in the county)

I think that confirms them to be the same Benjamin.

The Elizabeth in Monkseaton on 1841 census at Piece 825 Book 5 Folio 17 Page 9, transcribed as Elstad, was recorded as Elstob by the census enumerator. The common theme for those five residents in Seaton Villa was that the three females were F.S. ( = female servants) and the two males were M.S. ( = male servants)


 Michael

[2zpool]

Baptism Longbenton:

Margaret Bell 18 Oct 1829 d/o Isaac and Jane Bell


Baptism Newcastle All Saints

Henry Bell 13 Sept 1834 s/o Isaac and Jane Bell