Richard Baker -Bedwellty

[forestlea2739]

I'm looking for information on my wife's gt-gt grandfather Richard Baker who was born abt 1852. He married Mary Ann Preddy in Monmouth and later moved to the Bedwellty where the couple had a son William George Baker born abt 1878.  I understand that on William's birth certificate his father Richard's occupation was shown as a policeman.   Any information on the family would be appreciated.

Many thanks   

[cardiff]

Hi
Have you found them on any census?
I see the marriage Richard Baker m=m MaryAnn Preddy 1st qtr 1876 monmouthshire 11a page 57
You don't have the marriage certificate?
then the birth of thier son
William geroge Baker 2nd qtr 1878 Bedwelty vol 11a page 111

 I cannot see them on the 1881 census?
Where did you get birth <1852> of Richard?
cheers cardiff

[forestlea2739]

Thanks Cardiff

Richard died in hospital in 1881 and his wife Mary Ann & William moved to the Forest-of-Dean area where I've found them in the 1881 living in the Newland area.  In the 1881 census Richard is shown as being in hospital in London where he later died. His occupation in the 1881 census is down as a miner not a policeman as shown on William's birth certificate.  I assume that Richard was born about 1852 from the date of his marriage in 1875. 
I've been unable to find out anything about Richard before his marriage to Mary Ann Preddy in 1875, how he came to live in the Bedwellty area, or whether or not he was a policeman or a miner- I'll keep on trying.   

Thanks again for your help

[MargP]

Hi

Are there any witnesses on the marriage certificate,  what was his occupation and his father's names on this

Margp

[MargP]

Hi

So according to the 1881 census we are looking for

Richard Baker b 1855 Newland Gloucestershire died 1881 London, Strand, St Clement  Danes
Margp

[z]

Hi

Have you considered this? And working backwards ..........................

1901 RG13  4921 8 7 - Civil Parish Newland - Address Lower Redbrook
Mary Baker Head wid 49 Ebbw Vale Mon
William Baker son single 23 Ebbw Vale Mon - Tin plate worker

1881 RG11 5223 97 2 - Civil Parish Newland - Village of Clearwell - Address Slow Lane
George Baker Head mar 53 Clearwell Gloucester - Iron Miner
Sarah wife 51 Clearwell
Alfred son 15 Clearwell - Iron miner
Elton?son 12 Clearwell
Wilson/Milson? son 8 Clearwell
William Baker Grandson 3 Ebbw Vale Mon
+ 1 boarder

finally looking for George and Sarah in 1861 RG9 3980 98 9  - Civil Parish Newland - Hamlet Clearwell - Address Private
George Baker Head mar 35 Bream Gloucester - Stone Cutter
Sarah wife 31 Monmouth
Thomas son 11 Clearwell
George son 8 Clearwell
Richard son 6 Clearwell
Annie Eliza daugh 4 Clearwell
Hubert son 1 Clearwell

Regards

Z

[cardiff]

Hi Z
 I was just about to post that info
cheers cardiff
Ps
The question is why was he in hospital in London? Do you have Richards Death certificate
Have you not seen the birth certificate as you say you understand it gives Williams father Richard as a policeman?

[cardiff]

Hi
1871 censsu RG10 5298/112/9
 Drybrook House Newland
George Baker b 1827  newland gloucestershire iron miner
Sarah wife b 1830
George b 1853 iron miner
RICHARD b 1855 iron miner
Eliza b 1857
Hubert b 1860
Alfred b 1866
Elton b 1869
All born Newland Gloucestershire

[cardiff]

Hi
1881 census
Kings College Hospital St Clement danes
Ricard Baker  married b 1855 Gloucestershire  Patient
  Miner in (n/def)
 what does that mean anyone know?
cheers cardiff