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Harrison/Reed Marriage
« on: Saturday 03 September 11 19:16 BST (UK) »
Hi, I have looked exhaustively for the marriage of Isaac Harrison and Sarah Ann Reed in Birmingham from 1855 - 1866.   Sarah was born in Clapham in London, Isaac in Birmingham.  They are shown on the Birmingham Census' as married and their first daughter Jane Reed Harrison was babtised in a Wesleyan establishment in Birmingham in 1866.   I have looked at the available non-conformist registers but no luck.   Sarah is definitely shown as wife on the Baptism record.   Isaac was married before, but his wife died 1855.   I cannot find any record in London either.  In view of the non-conformist following, would they have just lived together?

Does anyone have any ideas? 

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Re: Harrison/Reed Marriage
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 September 11 19:24 BST (UK) »
Hi

In 1861 - Isaac is shown as married but no wife in household so any marriage was post 1861 census

All b Birmingham

Isaac Harrison 30
Emily 5
William O   3
Alfred  28 brother
Eliza   25 sister
RG9 Piece 2170 Folio 29 Page 6

You say his wife died 1855 - but William was born 1857/58
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Re: Harrison/Reed Marriage
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 September 11 19:51 BST (UK) »
Hi, it may be that Sarah was already on the seen, but it could also be that Isaac had already married again after his first wife's death.  I have the death certificate of his first wife Louisa Shorthouse, who was mother to Emily, but cannot find any other record for marriage or maybe another death.

The only other record I have is the birth of Jane Reed Harrison in 1866, whose mother was Sarah Ann Reed - hence the middle name.  Apart from these, there are just the census listings.  I also have the birth records of all the other children, apart from William.   If I could find William's birth, I could maybe find who his mother was, but this one is proving elusive.  I have also sent for two certificates which are wrong.

Hopeful !


 
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Re: Harrison/Reed Marriage
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:01 BST (UK) »
There is this birth on freebmd you may want to investigate
William Read December qtr 1857 Aston 6d  273
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Re: Harrison/Reed Marriage
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks Carole,  I will certainly investigate.    Maybe this was Sarah's child !
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Re: Harrison/Reed Marriage
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:04 BST (UK) »
Another thought - what if Sarah had been previously married?  This is what can happen

Sarah Reed marries Joe Bloggs and is then widowed

Sarah  Bloggs re-marries to Mr Harrison

However - baby Harrison's birth cert will show mothers true maiden name of Reed
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Re: Harrison/Reed Marriage
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 September 11 20:17 BST (UK) »
1871 shows Sarah b 1838 Birmingham

The 1851 has a Sarah Reed b 1837 Birmingham - parents Charles & Esther and also a Sarah Ann Read b 1838 Birmingham - parents William & Lydia
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Re: Harrison/Reed Marriage
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 September 11 12:01 BST (UK) »
Hi,   I already have the information from the 1871 Birmingham census  where Sarah is already shown as wife to Isaac. The others you mentioned are not the right Sarah.   She was born in Clapham in London and her parents were George and Jane.  Sarah is shown on the 1861 Birmingham Census living with her sister Jane (after whom she named her first child).

I am also following up the suggestion that Sarah may have married before but looking through all the marriages showing for Isaac Harrison, and cross checking the maiden names, so far there has been nothing significant.  However, I am chasing up the William Read birth.   This might be fruitful.   I will let you know if anything turns up.

Many thanks again  for all your help and suggestions.   
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Re: Harrison/Reed Marriage
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 September 11 17:37 BST (UK) »
1871 shows Sarah aged 33 b Birmingham hence my reply

1881 - Sarah Ann aged 41 b London

1891 - widow - Sarah Ann aged 52 b Clapham - living next door to another Harrison family
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