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Alabaster & Franklyn in Romford
« on: Tuesday 13 September 11 09:58 BST (UK) »
I have a death cert for John Franklyn in 1904. His address was Moores Place, Romford.  The informant was Clara Alabaster, daughter, of Mawyneys Lane, Romford.

I have found 2 Clara Alabasters on the 1901 census - one was the wife of Richard Alabaster, however I have found that her maiden name was Ryan.

The other is the wife of William Alabaster.  They are living in Rettenden, Essex. She is 27, he is 33.

In the 1911 census this couple are at Ray Square, High St, Romford.  They have been married for 12 years.

My problem is that I cannot find a marriage for this couple.  Clara's surname may have been Franklin, Franklyn, Dickerson or even Freestone (this is a very complicated family).

Can anyone else out there find something I have missed?

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Re: Alabaster & Franklyn in Romford
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 May 14 20:57 BST (UK) »
I know this is random, but when I was a little girl 1953 I remember Miss Albaster, serving me in her sweet shop in Marks Road, she was very grumpy lol

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Re: Alabaster & Franklyn in Romford
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 May 14 14:19 BST (UK) »
Have you any previous census for John Franklyn, I notice he was 58 upon death, there fore D of B would be circa 1843, do you know where he was born?

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Re: Alabaster & Franklyn in Romford
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 May 14 19:23 BST (UK) »
Sorry it was just an observation not looking at this family.
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Re: Alabaster & Franklyn in Romford
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 May 14 19:53 BST (UK) »
A Clara Alabaster b 1876 died Rochford 1937.  This is probably the Clara married to Richard.  The Clara married to William was b 1872

Have you traced your John Franklyn on the 1881 census?  Did he have a daughter Clara born 1872-1876?

Did you notice that Clara's birthplace is different in 1901 to 1911?
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Alabaster & Franklyn in Romford
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 May 14 21:11 BST (UK) »
Looks as if the place of birth differs, if I am looking at the right one

1901 says Edgware Road which is Paddington

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Alabaster & Franklyn in Romford
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 May 14 21:20 BST (UK) »
If as stated on 1901 and she is the same person, born Edgware Road then I assume she would have been registered there

only 2 shown as London registrations
Clara Dickerson reg 1872 Sept qtr ref 1a 111 Kensington
Clara Dickerson reg 1871 Dec qtr Chelsea ref 1a 286

No marriage found so far

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Alabaster & Franklyn in Romford
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 May 14 22:28 BST (UK) »
I've found this marriage - her surname is slightly out from one of the options, but just wondering if it's a possibility?

Q1 1915  Bridlington    9d   567
Alabaster    William   
Dickinson    Clara A   

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Re: Alabaster & Franklyn in Romford
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 May 14 23:16 BST (UK) »
www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk shows the 1915 marriage was at Hunmanby, All Saints, Scarborough
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)