Shadrack Page

[frootloop]

Can somebody please help find a possible marriage for Shadrack Page b. 1862 in Didcot, Berks to Elizabeth b. in Dudley Port Staffs sometime around 1878 - 1881 (give or take a couple of years). Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Sara

[TomRees]

cant see one. is it him remarried in 1901 West Ham to a Jane?

How about getting one of the kids Birth Certificates - that would show Elizabeths maiden name, might help if there is a GRO index problem for the marriage?

[gc1]

There is a Shadark Page living in Canning Town, West Ham, Essex in the 1901 Census

Aged 38 so DoB c1863 Birth place Didcot Berks.

Also two BmD entries for marriage in 1901 & 1903 West Ham
(1903 Groom's middle name is Abraham L)

Not sure if this helps

[frootloop]

TomR

Yeah thats him married to Jane. I will look for Harrys birth cert and see if it helps. He stays with Shadrack on 1891 census and by then they've had William, who is my ancestor, and the only possibility I can find for him is with mam Sarah Elizabeth in Eynsham visiting grandparents. So I now have 3 possible names    What kind of problem would make a marriage entry disappear?

gc1

The first marriage entry is to Jane Lambourne which is about 13 years after my ancestors birth See the long winded explanation above).
The second is his sons! So I think Jane is his second marriage.

Sara

[gc1]

Is this them in the 1881 census??

Shadrack Page (aged 19 Born Didcot) Lodger with his wife Elizabeth (age 20 Born Dudley) and son Harry (aged 3 Born Eynsham) at Ridgeley Road Hammersmith M/Sex

Head of the House is Charles Brown aged 30.

Just some extrs info as an add on if you haven't allready got it.

Edit:
Harry's age 3yrs not 3mths...My Bad..Sorry

[TomRees]

so Sarah E née Lambourn on the 1891 with her parents in Ensham is the Jane on the 1901 ?

What kind of problem would make a marriage entry disappear?

Many instances of problems / omissions in the long winded process of manually copying returns into a Local District Registers and then quarterly replicating to the central GRO, who in turn prepared a new set of registers for the whole country.

Somebody wrote a book about it called 'A comedy of errors'



Ref 1881 - yes, saw that. Slightly different POB for Henry / Harry?


Added: If Harry is born Eynsham as shown 1881 census - where Mum is Elizabeth from Staffs (c1861) - and Ms Lambourn is from Ensham too & in 1891 calls herself Sarah E (c1861), apart from the age difference could this be the same person? I suspect the age of 'Jane' in 1901 is wrong !

In 1871 she's called Sarah E - so where does 'Jane fit in' ??

Ah, there is a younger sister Jane back in 1881.

No Sarahs, but a couple of Elizabeths die in West Ham District in 1899/1900 of the right sort of age.

[TomRees]

These are the only PAGE births in the Witney District (includes Ensham) 1877 - 1879

Births Jun Quarter of 1877   
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Page  William    Witney  3a 749   

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Births Dec Quarter of 1879 
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Page  Grace Ethel L     Witney  3a 744   




This may answer the question - given the surname 

Births Jun Quarter of 1878   
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Lambourne  Harry     Witney  3a 750   

[frootloop]

Ha are you as confused as me yet?

I thought the Sarah E and Elizabeth could possibly be the same person apart from the POB but Jane was definately the younger sister. I will order Harrys birth certificate and go from there. Ill also order the marriage cert and see what that turns up