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Edward WALL+Margaret DAVIES marriage
« on: Sunday 18 September 11 05:12 BST (UK) »
Hi:)
Looking for a Marriage of an EDWARD WALL And MARGARET DAVIES, Possibly Wales?? EDward was on 1841 census in Wales aged 55 , but no Margaret, But stated he wasnt from Radnorshire Wales, Not from This County
They had James Wall and Thomas Wall Listed with him on the census, Presume his children
Any help finding this Marriage would be Appreciated
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Ireland...Direct Lines
Down..Clendinnen
Clare..Haren, Ryan
Kerry...Doody
Tipperary...Morrisey
Wexford...Clendinnen, Steele, Ellis
Roscommon...Carley, Fallon

France...D'Acre, Went to Ireland some Changed to DEAKER

England Direct Lines
Norfolk: Clamp, Chesney, Atkins, streek
Essex: Mountford, Cornell, Philpott, Hawkes
Wiltshire: Stone, Annetts,

Watt, Toombs, Greville, Revell , Hindmarsh, Williams, Chivell, Collocott, Carle, Bayliss, Berry, Dewsbury, Dungey, Edwards, Gray, Haughton

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Re: EDWARD WALL+MARGARET DAVIES MARRIAGE
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 September 11 09:19 BST (UK) »
haven't found the marriage as yet, but I have found the burial & death reg of Margaret

burial - 6/10/1840 aged 53 in Disserth parish church, death reg Margaret Wall dec qtr 1840 Builth vol 26 pg 207

Edward then remarries

Edward Wall sept qtr 1847 Builth vol 26 pg 349 with Hester Hardwick the only other on the page. As the second marriage is after the start of civil registration, it should give you the name & occupation of Edward's father

1851 Cefnbach, Disseth HO107/2488 folio 128 pg 7
Edward Wall head mar 72 farmer of 30 acres b. Herefordshire, Yarpole
Easter wife 46 b. Radnorshire, Nantmel
Amanda Hardwick step dau 12 b. Radnorshire, Cefnllys


Baptisms in IGI extracted batch C057661 for Disserth to Edward & Margaret Wall
Jane bp 14/1/1821
Thomas bp 31/6/1828 - buried 24/9/1828 aged 4 months

Jane marries june qtr 1841 Builth vol 26 pg 495 to Edward Samuel - the page number he is on looks to have been mistranscribed when handwritten GRO index typed. He's on FreeBmd as pg 405, but that page number is not within the range for Builth for that quarter.

1851 Penbank, Llanelwedd, Radnorshire HO107/2488 folio 229 pg 5
Edward Samuel head mar 36 farmer of 12 acres & ag lab
Jane wife 30
Elizabeth dau 8
Margaret dau 5
Edward son 3
Thomas son 3 months b. Llanelwedd
John Wall visitor 24 ag lab
John Rice Watkins visitor 26 railway clerk b. Llanelwedd
all born Disserth except where noted

1871 Penbank, Llanelwedd RG10/5575 folio 5 pg 4
Edward Samuel  head mar 54 farmer of 10 3 4 acres b.Disserth
Jane wife 50 b. Disserth
Edward son 22 farm servant b. Disserth
Thomas son 19 coal & lime clerk b. Llanelwedd
Edward Wall father-in-law widower 93 annuitant b. Yarpole, Herefordshire
Rose Anna Price niece 9 b. Disserth

hope something here is of use.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: EDWARD WALL+MARGARET DAVIES MARRIAGE
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 September 11 10:43 BST (UK) »
Gday Osprey:)
Thanks for your reply and All that info
I Wondered whether Edward Wall was born in wales so ty For finding him on Census Born in Herefordshire

Edward and Margaret had another Thomas Born in 1831 in radnorshire , hes the Line im Following, direct as he came to Queensland Australia in 1880s
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Cathy:)
Ireland...Direct Lines
Down..Clendinnen
Clare..Haren, Ryan
Kerry...Doody
Tipperary...Morrisey
Wexford...Clendinnen, Steele, Ellis
Roscommon...Carley, Fallon

France...D'Acre, Went to Ireland some Changed to DEAKER

England Direct Lines
Norfolk: Clamp, Chesney, Atkins, streek
Essex: Mountford, Cornell, Philpott, Hawkes
Wiltshire: Stone, Annetts,

Watt, Toombs, Greville, Revell , Hindmarsh, Williams, Chivell, Collocott, Carle, Bayliss, Berry, Dewsbury, Dungey, Edwards, Gray, Haughton

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Re: Edward WALL+Margaret DAVIES marriage
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 September 11 12:15 BST (UK) »
where did you get the surname Davies from for Margaret? Is it from the death reg of Thomas?
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Edward WALL+Margaret DAVIES marriage
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 September 11 21:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Osprey:)
Found the Surname Davies on a Ancestry tree..but have found some mistakes on Ancestry Trees too.. lol
Interested in one of your Surnames too
HARE
My ggrandfather JOHN HARE Came to Aus in 1848, Born 1817 But have no idea where in England he was born or who his parents were cant even find a marriage for him
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Cathy:)
Ireland...Direct Lines
Down..Clendinnen
Clare..Haren, Ryan
Kerry...Doody
Tipperary...Morrisey
Wexford...Clendinnen, Steele, Ellis
Roscommon...Carley, Fallon

France...D'Acre, Went to Ireland some Changed to DEAKER

England Direct Lines
Norfolk: Clamp, Chesney, Atkins, streek
Essex: Mountford, Cornell, Philpott, Hawkes
Wiltshire: Stone, Annetts,

Watt, Toombs, Greville, Revell , Hindmarsh, Williams, Chivell, Collocott, Carle, Bayliss, Berry, Dewsbury, Dungey, Edwards, Gray, Haughton

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Re: Edward WALL+Margaret DAVIES marriage
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 September 11 22:20 BST (UK) »
Is there any source given for the marriage?

The IGI is far from complete, so the marriage could be in a batch that isn't online. However, there is a marriage in Kington in Herefordshire 29/5/1813 of and Edward Wall & Margaret Farr. That's about 17 miles or so from Diserth. You could see if yuou can find any trace of this couple later.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Edward WALL+Margaret DAVIES marriage
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 September 11 22:30 BST (UK) »
forgot to say my Hares are from North Yorkshire, & had previously used the name Airey.  My John was between wives when yours was born & already had a son John. I don't think it's a name that is specific to one part of the UK, there are Hares all over the place.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Edward WALL+Margaret DAVIES marriage
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 September 11 02:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Osprey:)
Thanks for your Reply....yesss i did see that marriage of a edward Wall and Margaret Farrr, wondered about that too Maybe the Davies is wrong surname   Will keep looking
cheers
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Cathy:)
Ireland...Direct Lines
Down..Clendinnen
Clare..Haren, Ryan
Kerry...Doody
Tipperary...Morrisey
Wexford...Clendinnen, Steele, Ellis
Roscommon...Carley, Fallon

France...D'Acre, Went to Ireland some Changed to DEAKER

England Direct Lines
Norfolk: Clamp, Chesney, Atkins, streek
Essex: Mountford, Cornell, Philpott, Hawkes
Wiltshire: Stone, Annetts,

Watt, Toombs, Greville, Revell , Hindmarsh, Williams, Chivell, Collocott, Carle, Bayliss, Berry, Dewsbury, Dungey, Edwards, Gray, Haughton

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Re: Edward WALL+Margaret DAVIES marriage
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 September 11 22:02 BST (UK) »
is there a source given for the Wall/Davies marriage?
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb