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lookup for Butcher birth please
« on: Tuesday 11 October 11 17:12 BST (UK) »
Hi
Can anyone help with finding parents/siblings for Hannah Butcher b c 1818 littleport Cambs please, seem to have hit a brick wall..
Many Thanks
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Re: lookup for Butcher birth please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 October 11 18:31 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Not sure of the geography of Cambridgeshire but found this baptism:

Hannah Butcher,  18 April 1816, Coveney, Cambridgeshire, daughter of William (a labourer) and Sarah.


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Re: lookup for Butcher birth please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 October 11 18:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Baggsey
 I`ve  found Baptism for Hannah  Butcher
 18th April 1816   Hannah Butcher daughter of
William  labourer and Sarah  of Coveney Cambs.
1841 Census
 Coveney Cambs
 William Butcher  Head  1781   60yrs    Agr labourer
  William  "   Junior  son  1806  38yrs
  Rebecca    "     Dau        1811  30yrs
  Robert        "    Son         1813  28yrs
Hannah         "   Dau          1816  25yrs
   Joseph      "      Son          !826  15yrs
  Isabelle      "    Dau             1835 6 yrs

 Haven`t found a marriage for Hannah or death for Sarah
will keep looking

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 October 11 19:44 BST (UK) »
The best place to look is the Baptism Index 1801-37 at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html where there's an 1813 baptism in Littleport

Whilst Coveney is only five miles from Littleport, what's the source for her being born at Littleport, and how accurate is the c1818 birth?
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 October 11 22:07 BST (UK) »
The Hannah Butcher baptised at Littleport in 1813 unfortunately was buried a few days later.

Baptisms for Coveney are available on FreeReg http://freereg.rootsweb.com/ and you can sort out the 1841 family given by dragongirl from there.

It appears that Isabelle was the illeg daughter of Rebecca and not the child of William and Sarah.

A Hannah Butcher married at Coveney in 1841 and you can see the options for the groom on FreeBMD (December quarter).

A Sarah Butcher was buried at Coveney in 1836 aged 59.

Also found a Hannah Butcher born 2 December 1818 but she was of Waterbeach dau of James and Mary, non conformist and another 1816 at Chatteris, Wesleyan circuit.

Coveney looks the best match so far from the details you have given.

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Selina

Added:  Following later census records it looks like the Hannah Butcher marriage in 1841 was to William Spooner.  She appears to have eventually ended her days back in Coveney being buried there in 1901 aged 85.  On FreeBMD the district  for the death is Ely, in Cambs burials there is a Hannah Spooner buried Coveney 1901 aged 35 which I think could well be a transcription error.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 October 11 23:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your replies.....The Hannah Butcher I have married James Pettit in Ely c 1837.. Found them on the 41 census and states she was born Littleport same as James..! At the time they had 3 children, Ann James and Nathan although I think they had about 10 children in all.
As I say I have hit a brick wall trying to find anything of her and her family before she married.
Appreciate all your help so far though
Baggsy.

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 00:26 BST (UK) »
Whilst in the 1841 it just states that Hannah and James Pettit were born in the County, no parish, they appear in the 1851 census where their birthplaces are given as Littleport.

In 1851 they are still  living in Littleport with Richard Butcher, head of household, a widower and a cordwainer.  James Pettit is stated to be his son-in-law and Hanh (sic) his daughter (aged 34), their children are there too.

In 1841 Richd Butcher, a lodging house keeper, is living next door to James and Hannah Pettit.

The Hannah Butcher who was baptised and buried in 1813 was the daughter of a Richard and Mary Butcher and that Richard was a shoemaker.  A Mary Butcher was buried in 1824 aged 46 which might be relevant.

Hannah and James were married 5 September 1836 Littleport.

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 10:37 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Selina that is very interesting, poss Mary was her Mother?? ??? Maybe she did not have any siblings after all, if Mother  died so young. I have found with the family ( pettits) I am researching they all seem to have various occupations in short spaces of time. My other half still has family and connections in littleport and Ely but they can't remember that far back... ;D

I know Hannah and James's son James Pettit b c 1839 moved to Southwark London sometime afterr 1861 as this is the line I'm researching.Their address then is given as Crown st Littleport and most of his siblings remained in Littleport or cambs.

As always thank you so much for your help
Baggsy.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 October 11 10:55 BST (UK) »
If Richard and Mary were Hannah's parents then there appear to have been siblings, you can check for these on the Cambs F.H. site, baptisms 1801-1837.  Just fill in Butcher and Littleport.

http://www.cfhs.org.uk/BaptismIndex/index.html  there is also a burial index
http://www.cfhs.org.uk/BurialIndex/index.html

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