Broadhead birth- Manchester

[Big Guy]

I am trying to find the birth or christening date of John Broadhead given as "about 1826" in the various census from 1851 to 1881. The birth place is usually given as Manchester with one exception given as Altrincham in the 1881 census.When he married Ellen Moston in 1846 at Manchester Cathedral his father's name on the marriage certificate was given as John Broadhead,a farmer of Gt Ancoats Street.In the 1841 census I believe I have found him as a 15 year old living with his family in Rostherne with a father John who is a farmer. The census indicates he was not born in that county so believe that he was indeed born in Lancashire at Manchester.His age of 15 could have been rounded down so he could have been born anywhere from about late1821 to 1826.I have been unable to find his birth or christening so that I can establish who his mother was. From his marriage on, all his children's christenings and a second marriage and children from that marriage have been recorded at Manchester Cathedral so see a tie to this area.I would really appreciate any help to find his birth as it has been a brick wall for the last 7-8 years.
Thanks,  Big Guy.

[Big Guy]

Is there no-one who can help me or offer any suggestions? I am in NZ and need some local knowledge or research.
Leatham

[CaroleW]

Hi

If you look at the number of people who have viewed your post - it's 95 and rising.  Unfortunately, none were able to help with your query and find anything re: his birth/christening otherwise they would have replied

Whilst it's frustrating - it does happen that simply no records exist of that person

From his marriage on, all his children's christenings and a second marriage and children from that marriage have been recorded at Manchester Cathedral

He appears to be living in Lymm Cheshire in 1861 and is a widower.  All 4 of his children were born in Lymm and the 1851 census shows his wife Ellen was also b Lymm.  Eldest son Edward was christened in Lymm

Are we talking about the same John Broadhead as the one in Lymm was b 1825 Manchester

[mshrmh]

Big Guy - you ask for suggestions:

Not all records are online & even in the 1820s Manchester was a big enough place to have several churches so it's quite a task to undertake.

My suggestion would be to use the GENUKI pages to find out which churches & chapels were open around the time - he may have been baptised at the same time as younger sibling(s) or at a non-conformist or RC church. Then you could take that list & see which records are online at the IGI, new version of FamilySearch (which has some images as well for the area) and the LancashireOPC site. There may be others - the resources area of these boards may help.
If you check these off you're left with other possible locations. LancashireOPC is updated regularly so you could watch that; local LDS family history centres may be able to order films of the registers for others.

GENUKI Manchester
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Manchester/

IGI
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

New version of FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/

Lancashire registers with images (browsable rather than searchable via the link):
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https://api.familysearch.org/records/waypoint/10931813

Lancashire Online Parish Clerk
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

LDS family history centres:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp

It's not looking easy - best wishes!

[tina morana]

Hi All
1871 census has an Edward Broadhead bn Lymm 22 coachman living in Withington Lancs
Also Louis changed to Lois female 20 bn Lymm waitress.

Tinam

[Big Guy]

Thanks to those who have replied with suggestions. I have all the information on the family from 1826 on. children,marriages and deaths to the present day. I had already looked at those websites suggested, and looked at films for churches that I think are in the area but had no luck. His birth/christening is very elusive and I thought that I may have missed something or somewhere. Local knowledge is invaluable. PM me if you can help or need more details. Big Guy

[CaroleW]

From his marriage on, all his children's christenings and a second marriage and children from that marriage have been recorded at Manchester Cathedral

That statement does not support the info found.  Children were born and christened in Lymm which is Cheshire - not Lancs

He appears to be living in Lymm Cheshire in 1861 and is a widower.  All 4 of his children were born in Lymm and the 1851 census shows his wife Ellen was also b Lymm.  Eldest son Edward was christened in Lymm

Are we talking about the same John Broadhead as the one in Lymm was b 1825 Manchester

[Gibel]

If we are talking about the John Broadhead shown in Lymm in some censuses with children christened to him and Ellen at Lymm church, I think you should follow up on this couple. The Cheshire Parish Register Database shows presumably John's wife Ellen buried at the age of 33 but it also shows a Mary broadhead aged 68 buried in 1858 and a John Broadhead aged 66 buried in 1859. The actual burial register would give more information such as where they were buried from etc. Their death's certificates may well give inofrmation if one of their sons registered the death.

I think these could be the couple in High Legh Rostherne in 1841 however you would need to get more evidence to prove it. You would also need to find them in 1851.

Gibel

PS Mary Broadhead is living in Lymm in 1851 listed as annuitant's wife born Worsley Lancashire aged 59.

[Big Guy]

Sorry about the blooper. You are right and I have all that info.  The John whose birth that I am looking for married Ellen Moston who later died. He then married Theresa Diste. The Mary death you found is his believed mother Mary who is in the 1841 census in High Legh and the John B death in 1859 is his father in the same census entry. I am trying to confirm that they are his parents as about that time in Manchester there were several Johns each with a wife who has a different name...obviously. I therefore need to find out which wife is the right one. Thanks for your help. Big Guy