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Gertrude Eleanor Sutton (married to Arthur Rushton)
« on: Tuesday 01 November 11 06:45 GMT (UK) »
I have a fair bit of information about Arthur Rushton but am trying to find out about Gertrude Eleanor Sutton.  She is believed to have been born in Horstead, Norfolk c1895 (but no birth certificate seems to exist so she may well have been a Lancashire/Liverpool girl).  She married Arthur Rushton 28 Oct 1915 at Everton Emmanual and lived in West Derby/Norris Green [Liverpool/Lancashire] for the remainder of her life.  She died 26 Jun 1958.

In particular, does anyone know of Gertrude's early life?  Can you confirm her birth day and place?

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Re: Gertrude Eleanor Sutton (married to Arthur Rushton)
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 November 11 07:06 GMT (UK) »


  Hi

  Welcome to Rootschat .
  The marriage lists her father as George so looking at 1901 census there is one in Norfolk ....

  Gertrude E Sutton b @1896 Horstead Norfolk.
  Do you know what her father did for a living to confirm a match?
   George Sutton hd m 40  farmer  b Lamas Norfolk
   Harriett A         wi m 44                b Griston
  Eva M              dau u 10                    Horstead
  George E H      son u 9                              "
  Katherine A       dau u 7                             " 
  Gertrude E           dau u 5                          "
  Ruth E Hunt          serv u 18
  Milvina Preston     serv u 23
  Living Buxton Norfolk RG13/1830 F 109 P15
  worth considering a Gertrude Ellen Sutton birth?
 have found the 2 names changable.

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Re: Gertrude Eleanor Sutton (married to Arthur Rushton)
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 November 11 07:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

Welcome to Rootschat! :D

Likely birth?......


Name:Gertrude Ellen Sutton
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1895
Registration district:St Faith's
Norfolk
Volume:4b
Page:93

Ties in with 1901 census entry and the following baptism http://www.genealogy.doun.org/transcriptions/documents.php?district_id=19&document_id=28369

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Re: Gertrude Eleanor Sutton (married to Arthur Rushton)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 November 11 07:11 GMT (UK) »

  Her birth registration ....?

  Gertrude Ellen Sutton   oct/nov/dec 1895
  St Faiths registration district.
  this covered Horstead with Stanninghall until 1938.

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Re: Gertrude Eleanor Sutton (married to Arthur Rushton)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 November 11 09:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I notice on the marriage certificate her father was a Soldier.

There is a birth for Gertrude Eleanor Sutton registered in Poona India in 1894 on the GRO Army Births Index page 435 .

Mo
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Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
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Re: Gertrude Eleanor Sutton (married to Arthur Rushton)
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 November 11 09:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I notice on the marriage certificate her father was a Soldier.

There is a birth for Gertrude Eleanor Sutton registered in Poona India in 1894 on the GRO Army Births Index page 435 .

Mo
Dear Tazzie and Sarah

Much appreciate your help, and thanks for welcoming me to rootschat!

I do not have any information about her parents or her siblings.  The tip about Ellen being a synonym for Eleanor is well taken so Gertrude Ellen Sutton seems a distinct possibility.  However, I am also aware that they are not always used synonymously.

Thanks!



Dear Mo
I have heard it rumoured that Gertrude Eleanor Sutton spent some time in India but dismissed it.  Your identification of Poona India is very interesting! 

Sorry if this is lame but how do I check 'GRO Army Births Index page 435'?  Is it accessible on The National Archives or Ancestry sites?  I am new to family history. 

Thanks!

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Re: Gertrude Eleanor Sutton (married to Arthur Rushton)
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 November 11 09:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

The GRO Army Birth Indices and other overseas records are free to search on www.familyrelatives.com .  You have to register first though, but it`s free.

There is a Gertrude Sutton aged 16 showing on the free 1911 census index born Poona India and living in the West Derby District, Lancashire.   You would have to buy credits to view the full details.
 http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx?4  and click on "show advanced fields"

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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Gertrude Eleanor Sutton (married to Arthur Rushton)
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 November 11 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

You will find Getrude E living in Dover Kent on the the 1901 census aged 6 born Poona India with mother Annie, 32, born Colchester Essex, sister Annie 13 born Kensington London and Brother George A(lbert)  aged 9 born Agra India. 
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Lancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton
Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peak(e)
Devon: Martin, Walter(s)

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Re: Gertrude Eleanor Sutton (married to Arthur Rushton)
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 November 11 11:10 GMT (UK) »


  Hi Mo ....

  An Annie Sutton was a Witness at the wedding so your hunch about the India link looks good.

  Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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