Jones/Roberts Family - Llangollen

[Gadget]

Summary of the census finds so far:

This might be Gwen and her parents in 1861:

Trawsgoed mawr, Rhos y ? and Nant Heulog, Llangwm
RG09/4310/4/4

Robert Roberts, 63, farmer of 55 acres
Margaret, 62
Hugh, 23
Gwen, 24
Robert Edwards, servant, 11

All b. Llangwm

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in 1871:

Bache, Llangollen
RG10/5683/63/44

John Jones, 36,  labourer, b. Llanfor, Merionethshire
Gwen, 35, b. Llangwm, Denbs
Ann Jane, 4, b. Llangollen
Thomas, 1, b. -do-

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Gwen dies
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in 1881

Llangollen Fechan, Llangollen
RG11/5540/130/17

John Jones, 47, labourer, Llawr Bettws, Merionethshire
Elizabeth, 46
Griffith Edwards, son, 21, printer compositor (unemployed)
Thomas Jones, s, 12
Winifed,d, 10
Margaret, d, 8
Elleanor, d, 6
John Williams, lodger, 25, waggon cartmaker, b. Trawsfynydd, Merionethshire

all others b. Llangollen


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In 1901:

23 Gorst Street, Everton
RG13/3479/76/25

Winifred Chandler, hd, mar, 29, b. Llangollen
Jessie W, d, 7, b. Liverpool

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The 1911 Canadian Census

Queen Street, Springhill, Cumberland, Nova Scotia

Charles Chandler, 37, miner b. England
Winifred, 37, b. Wales
Marie W, 11, b. England
Harry Walkins, brder, 29, miner, b.  -do-
Neil White, brder,  30, -do-, -do-



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[HGauthier]

OH..hah you're right..staying organized is half my problem.  Yes I was mixing up Winifred and Marie... well you know what.. I'm going to plug this into my tree and try to make sense of it all.  You are great!

[wrjones]

I found the 1871 with Ann Jane and Thomas children,no sign of any marriage for John and Gwen though.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[maidmarion]

Taking in to concideration the son Griffith that I previously mentioned, he has a different surname which may indicate that Gwen had been married before.  

Marriage 1867
Llangar/Cynwyd St John
John Jones to either Gwen Edwards or Mary Williams
http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk

Alternative source only gives Gwen Edwards
Corwen, Merionethshire
Jun 1/4 1867

[HGauthier]

Great information Maidmarion and WRJones...much appreciated... I'm such a paper person I'm madly writing all of this down!

[maidmarion]

Hi
There is also a marriage in Bala, which is a civil one.

Gwen Roberts to Robert Edwards 1861.

Modified to there is a note to say  *alternative enteries.

[Gadget]

That looks a good match,MM   

I'll do a double check on the 1861 to see if the Robert Edwards was 21 and not 11 

added -definiteley 11

[maidmarion]

 
It did cross my mind but no doubt there will be others around 

[HGauthier]

You guys are godsends!

As I was writing this down... it could be that Winifred who was born in 1871 and not showing on the census was the result of Gwen's death.  I do know that she did not know her mother, or at least her mother died when she was very young... so Winnifred being 10 on the 1881 census with Elizabeth makes perfect sense.

This is so great... !