Ivar Blomberg - Sweden

[cmg414]

Jan,
Once again that is great information.
Many Thanks,
Colin

[janrm]

Slightly of with respect to dates, but I think this is our man:

Johan Petter, born 28/5-1829, baptised 31/5-1829 to parents worker Petter Blomberg ?Halstea? and wife Frederica Wilhelmina Carlqvist. The mother is aged 24 and they are living a place called "Folkelsegrund".

J

[cmg414]

Hi Jan,
I have found a family tree that has a Frederica Wilhelmina Carlqvist b 10 Aug 1805 in Vate. The following is according to this tree - her father Johannes Carlqvist b 11 Jul 1774 Alsheda, Smaland d 1844 Backs, Vate - her mother Cajsa Lisa Fagerhult b 10 Jan 1783 Lilla Ambos, Vate d 1840 Backs, Vate. Her parents married 18 Feb 1800 Vate.
Frederica Wilhelmina married Jonas Petter Blomberg 25 Jun 1826 in Vaskunde. He was b 9 Aug 1806 Kviungs, Stenkumla and his father was Niclas Jonsson Blomberg and mother Sara Christina Persdotter
They had a son Johan Petter Blomberg b 28 May 1829 Vate but the tree has no information about a wife.

I wondered if this might fit with what you have found? Also, I have not worked out how to show umlauts etc but there is an umlaut on the a in Vate and Backs.

Colin

[janrm]

Hi Colin!

It looks promising, I have found the birth Aug 10, 1805, it is correct. Somewhat amusing, the mother's age is stated to be "20-25" & the minister has written "Cajsa Wilh.." first, but corrected it afterwards!

Jan

[janrm]

Hi again!

Widower Johan Carlqvist died aged 69y 6m on Jan 12, 1844. He was buried Jan 19, 1844. Cause of death; Lungsot. (pneumonia)

I've also found this family in the Household records for Danskeberg;

Peter Månssån, b Heda 1800
wife Brita Maja Jonsdotter, b Hagby 1790

Children:
Christina Fredrika 1824
Olof Magnus 1830
Carolina b 10/3-1833

One comment I can read: "Utfattiga", there is probably an English word for this?
(It means very, very poor)

Jan.

[cmg414]

Hi Jan,

re Utfattiga - I am afraid that I can't speak any Swedish and being very very poor could be best translation. There is a word in English - destitute - but that means totally impoverished, lacking the means of subsistence. It really comes down to what the writer meant.
I see what you mean about the minister getting the name wrong and guessing at the age. Perhaps he had been celebrating a wee bit too much earlier!
I will try and find some more info to help with your research.
Colin


 

[janrm]

Yes, altough I am not Swedish to me Utfattiga means "on the brink of starvation"...

Did you understand the expression "Backstugasittare"?

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backstugusittare

Loosely translated it means "someone who sits in a cottage in the ground", and tht's what it was, a cottage part dug out in the ground!

(Also for the very poorest)

J

[cmg414]

It certainly appears that this family had a very hard life.

I have found something interesting - another marriage:
Jonas Peter Blomberg aged 29 married Hedvig Ulrica Carlqvist aged 27 on 08 Jan 1836 in Vate, Gotland.

I believe this is our man and that the bride is the sister of Fredrika Wilhelmina Carlqvist. This could indicate that Fredrika died sometime before 1836. I will look for children from both marriages to see if this fits.

Colin

[janrm]

It didn't take me more than a minute to find this last marriage during my lunch break!

They were both widowed,

Your info seems to fit, where have you picked it from?

Jan