Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 2

[Maza]

Hi, Lodger very kindly sent me a photo of an M.I. for Lockhart Stewart in Cambusnethan churchyard.

My Scottish cousin would like to take her daughter to see it.

I would appreciate any direction for her to find it.

Happy New Year to all.    Thank you....Maza

[Lodger]

Hi Maza,

It should be fairly easy to find (if it's still there) and I have included a picture showing the Stewart stone in the foreground. The church hall at the back is across the street (Greenhead Road), the old ruined church is out of sight on the right of the picture and there is a high stone wall out of sight on the left. If your cousin comes in from the small roundabout inside the cemetery gates and crosses the empty space (a few old trees there), she should just keep the church hall in front of her, the Stewart stone should be approximately on line with the nearest gable of the ruined church, not too far into the burial ground.

Lodger

[scott55]

 hi lodger

thanks for replying that's the right dale it was a long reply and i must have miss read it this is part of the post Mary dale & john dale are siblings as is James dale ( the one I'm looking for) the O'Neil and dunford are also linked

OHN CULLEN. Coalminer, Wishaw, aged 19 years, single.
Parents - Patrick Cullen and Mary Dale.
Interred 26th January 1901.

JOHN DALE. Coalminer, Wishaw, aged 65 years, married.
Parents - James Dale and Margaret Golden.
Interred 8th March 1915.

thanks Scott55

[Lodger]

Hi Scott55,

I now understand. You found the entry for the Cain family and the 2 men you mention - John Cullen & John Dale are in plot E128. (Not, as you thought, common ground).
That has been established and I won't repeat them on the list below. This is what I've found -
I will list the names in family plots (lairs) where possible.

Plot C617. (6 burials)

JAMES DALE, labourer, Wishaw. Aged 65 years. Married.
Parents unknown.
Interred 2nd December 1885.

CATHERINE CULLEN, Wishaw. Aged 4 years.
Parents - Patrick Cullen & Mary Dale.
Interred 13th October 1890.

PATRICK DALE, coal miner, Wishaw. Aged 45 years. Married.
Parents - James Dale & Margaret Golden.
Interred 18th April 1892.

MARGARET DALE, Wishaw. Aged 11 months.
Parents - James Dale & Jane O'Neil.
Interred 26th September 1893.

MARGARET DALE, Wishaw. Aged 80 years. Widow.
Parents - Patrick Golden & Maria Dunford.
Interred 22nd February 1899.

JOSEPHINE HANNAH DALE, Wishaw. Aged 10 months.
Father - John Dale. (no mother's name supplied).
Interred 30th March 1900.

Plot A2317. (2 burials)

SUSAN AITKEN, Overtown. Aged 58 years. Widow.
Parents - William Dale & Susan Scott.
Interred 27th December 1913.
Plot owner - William Dale, pithead labourer, 20 Boyd's Rows, Overtown.

HELEN S. DALE, 4 Park Street Wishaw. Aged 4 years.
Parents - James Dale & Agnes Smith.
Interred 16th May 1916.

The following 5 entries are all interred in common ground (sometimes called public ground).

MARGARET DALE, Wishaw. Aged 2 weeks.
Parents - Patrick Dale & Margaret Mullen.
Interred 14th February 1874.

JAMES DALE, Wishaw. Aged 2 years.
Parents - Patrick Dale & Margaret Mullen.
Interred 30th July 1877.

MARY DALE, housewife, Wishaw. Aged 22 years. Married.
Parents - Peter Garrity & Jane Rorke.
Interred 25th December 1876.

JANE DALE, Wishaw. Aged 3 years.
Parents - William Dale & Isabella Harkness.
Interred 19th February 1878.

ISABELLA YOUNG DALE, housewife, Overtown. Aged 64 years. Married.
Parents - Thomas Harkness & Betty Mitchell.
Interred 5th November 1912.

That's all I have, at least you have 2 lair numbers to check, there may or may not be headstones there. The cemetery foreman will point you to the graves if you visit during working hours.

Lodger.

[scott55]

 hi lodger

 thanks  that's plenty, there are at least 4 direct and possibly 2 or 3 indirect family

 Scott55

[stwrt]

This new post is a continuation of previous post here www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,183738.0.html. The older post is now closed for new enquiries. Please put all new enquiries on this new post.

There are a number of people who have knowledge and access to records from this cemetery.

Thank you 

Monica

Hi I'm wondering if you can help I'm looking for Mcgilps in this area, and wonder if you have any info?

Kind Regards
Gillian Stewart-Jamieson

[Lodger]

I could only find 2 references to the name McGilp in the Cambusnethan records.

CATHERINE McGILP DICKSON. Died at Motherwell Fever Hospital, usual residence Newmains. Aged 6years & 5 months.
Parents - William Dickson & Marion McGilp. Interred in Section E205 on 10th August 1907.

ANN McCULLOCH. Upper Calander Orchard, aged 84 years. Widow.
Parents - Alexander Livingston & Mary McGilp. Interred in the old churchyard on 21st December 1909.

If you have a connection to this McCulloch family please let me know and I will post the monumental inscriptions and the plot records.

[tazpants]

Hi Lodger,
Just wondered if it would be at all possible to obtain a pic of this stone if its accessible. If not then no problem. I appreciate your time and effort.

Cheers

David

Hi Tazpants,

There is a family plot in the old churchyard, the owner, in Victorian times, is listed as Gardner Turner. The plot book only records those buried after about 1880 (and even then I'm not convinced it was always kept up to date). The gravediggers Day Books pad-out what's missing pre-1880 but no records exist at all prior to 1861, apart from the headstone inscriptions and there is one for this plot, I'll begin with that.
"Gardner Turner died 1869 aged 79 years. His wife Catron Paton died May 1833 aged 45 years. Their daughter Mary died 1892 aged 64 years. Sarah Hamilton Turner died 1864 aged 3 years. Robert Turner died 1866 aged 1 year. John Turner died 1869 aged 19 years. Christina Turner died 1869 aged 1 year".
From the plot book - (all dates are of burial)
In the Centre lair -
MARGARET FROOD, aged 88 years, 29th July 1887.
MARION TURNER, aged 84 years, 20th August 1899.
SAMUEL F. TURNER, aged 68 years, 8th June 1920..
In the North lair - MARY TURNER, aged 64 years, 5th August 1892.

Entries from the gravediggers Day Books -

CATHERINE TURNER OR GOLD, straw hat maker, Cambusnethan, aged 45 years, widow.
Parents - Gardiner Turner & Catherine Paton.
Old churchyard on 1st February 1862.

SARAH HAMILTON TURNER, Stane, aged 3 years.
Parents - William Turner & Christina Allan.
Old churchyard on 7th September 1864.

JAMES TURNER, mason, Cocket Hat, aged 52 years, married.
Parents - Gardner Turner & Catherine Paton.
Old churchyard on 18th September 1865.

ROBERT TURNER, Old Stane, aged 21 months.
Parents - William Turner & Christina Allan.
Old churchyard on 21st November 1866.

JANET INGLIS, housewife, Crindledyke, aged 40 years, married.
Parents - Gardner Turner & Catherine Paton.
Old churchyard on 10th April 1869.

GARDNER TURNER, mason, Stane, aged 80 years, widower.
Parents unknown.
Old churchyard on 26th June 1869.

JOHN TURNER, mason, Stane, aged 19 years, unmarried.
Parents - William Turner & Christina Allan.
Old churchyard on 10th November 1869.

CHRISTINA TURNER, Stane, aged 10 months.
Parents - William Turner & Christina Allan.
Old churchyard on 18th November 1869.

WILLIAM TURNER, Wishaw, (unsure about the age - either 26 years or 2 years & 6 months).
Parents - James Turner & Marion Frood.
Old churchyard on 9th January 1871.

GARDNER PATON, mason, Wishaw, aged 36 years, unmarried.
Parents - James Turner & Marion Frood.
Old churchyard on 7th December 1875.

Another plot in the old churchyard that I think must be related to the Turner family - the owners in Victorian times were David Christie & Mary Turner of Shotts.

In the South lair -
DAVID CHRISTIE, aged 2 years & 6 months, 9th October 1880.
In the Centre lair -
JOHN TURNER, aged 55 years, 27th January 1902.

From the Day Books -

GARDNER CHRISTIE, Cambusnethan, aged 1 year.
Parents - Gardner Christie & Jane Pollock.
Old churchyard on 19th October 1872.

DAVID CHRISTIE, Chapelhall, aged 5 years.
Parents - Gardner Christie & Jane Pollock.
Old churchyard on 12th November 1872.

CATHERINE CHRISTIE, Chapelhall, aged 10 months.
Parents - Gardner Christie & Jane Pollock.
Old churchyard on 10th April 1877.

DAVID CHRISTIE, Cambusnethan, aged 2 years & 6 months.
Parents - Gardner Christie & Jane Pollock.
Old churchyard on 9th October 1880.

ROBERT CHRISTIE, Blantyre, aged 10 months.
Parents - Gardner Christie & Jane Pollock.
Old churchyard on 5th July 1881.

Hope that fills in some gaps for you! The Cocket Hat is an area between Cambusnethan village and Wishaw, at the foot of the Kirk Brae - corner of Coltness Road and Kirk Road. Stane is part of modern-day Shotts.

Lodger

[Lodger]

Hi David, I don't have a picture of the stone and it may not have survived from the time the inscriptions were transcribed 32 years ago but I'll have a look next time I'm there.

Lodger