Remenham bp

[mickmack1942]

    I have a female giving Remenham Berks  as place of origin, the info I have is from the census so

   hopefully the birth place is right, its not a lot to go on.

                Patience Rogers  abt 1838 Remenham Berks

            the parents I have are .   Henry Rogers and Hannah 'unknown '

              thanks...mick
                   

[rosie99]

Not the baptism I am afraid but it looks as though they could have registered her 

Births Dec Qtr 1837 
Rogers  Patience    Henley  16 61

[mickmack1942]

 Hi rosie, yes I have found her in the bmd as you and she is in the 41c in Woodmancote on her own

          aged 3 and is recorded as not of this county  ( no), Henley reg dis is Berks/Bucks/Oxon,

                 mick

       ps better go back to the drawing board for the other counties...thanks

[lizdb]

she is in the 41c in Woodmancote on her own

         

Even in 1841 I dont think 3 yr olds lived on their own!!!

It is hard to make out the head of the house's name on the image - it is a 60 yr old female, surname looks like Merritt? maybe. First name is even worse,  looks like Lelissine ...?
Also there are 3 others with dittoed surnames, so also Merrits or whatever it is, A 35 yr old Thomas, a 20 yr old male, though the name looks like Mary to me, and a 15 yr old male I cant read. And then little Patience.

Getting the birth cert will give you her parents names, and seems the best way to go.
Unless she is with her parents in 1851 of course ...!

[rosie99]

    I have a female giving Remenham Berks  as place of origin, the info I have is from the census so

   hopefully the birth place is right, its not a lot to go on.

                Patience Rogers  abt 1838 Remenham Berks

            the parents I have are .   Henry Rogers and Hannah 'unknown '

              thanks...mick
                   

IGI submitted has a birth for a Hannah Merret with mother Patience in Woodmancote 28 July 1811.  
Patience is probably with granny 'Patience' on the 1841  

Patience is with her parents in 1851 do you want the details

Rosie

[jillruss]

This is from a Berkshire FHS CD of Remenham PRs:

baptised 22 Oct 1837 Patience  d/o Henry, a labourer, & Mary Rogers of Aston.

I looked at the marriages to try and solve the 'Hannah' problem but the only Henry Rogers marriage was in 1866.

The only other child of Henry & Mary is Henry baptised 1840. The rest are children of Henry & Hannah baptised between 1841 and 1855. I can let you have details of these if you haven't already got them.

I can't see a burial in Remenham for Mary Rogers which might explain Henry remarrying to Hannah.

When you say she's 'on her own' on the 1841 census - she was 3 years old, she must have been living with someone! Maybe they're relatives?

Jill

[rosie99]

she is in the 41c in Woodmancote on her own

         

Even in 1841 I dont think 3 yr olds lived on their own!!!

It is hard to make out the head of the house's name on the image - it is a 60 yr old female, surname looks like Merritt? maybe. First name is even worse,  looks like Lelissine ...?
Also there are 3 others with dittoed surnames, so also Merrits or whatever it is, A 35 yr old Thomas, a 20 yr old male, though the name looks like Mary to me, and a 15 yr old male I cant read. And then little Patience.

Getting the birth cert will give you her parents names, and seems the best way to go.
Unless she is with her parents in 1851 of course ...!

I think it is her grandmother  Patience Merrett/Merritt

[ribbo39]

Hi Mick,
The 1851 census clearly lists them all;
Parish; Remenham. Place; Aston,
Ref. H0107/1725 f.26 p. 13
Henry Rogers Hd, 40, Farm Labourer born. Whitchurch, Oxon
Hannah         wife 39                           "     Woodmancott, Ham
Thomas   "     son  15    "            "        "     Remenham, Berks
Patience  "     dau   13                          "              "           "
Henry      "     son   11                          "              "           "
Rosy        "     dau     9  Scholar             "              "           "
John Wm "     son      6                         "              "            "
Mary M    "     dau      4                         "              "            "
Dennis           son       2                        "              "            "
plus 3 lodgers

Alan

[lizdb]

In 1851 Patience is in Remenham with parents Henry and Hannah. She isnt the eldest

Hannah gives birthplace as Woodmancote, which is where Patience was in 1841.
Looks as if Hannah was probably nee Merritt or whatever it is,
and seeing Rosie's findings it is all adding up.

The baptism in 1837 does confuse things, but it wouldnt be the forst time a vicar has recorded the wrong name in the register! If indeed that is the case - dont want to accuse him at this stage. There could well be a second marriage, but in that case Patience would be staying with the parents of her stepmum, rather than her grandparents.