john morse b st ismaels?

[x5girl]

Could anyone help ,im looking for information for the parents of John Morse b c 1838 camrose/st Ismael/jordanston. I have looked up all the relevant census records and his birth place seems to differ in several of them as Camrose or jordanston??
I know from his marriage certificate in 1863  he was aged 25 years and was resident in the Hayscastle /Mathry area .His father is named as John Morse on the Marriage certificate but I cant seem to trace him, any ideas would be appreciated, thankyou.

[suzard]

What was father's occupation -and who were witnesses ?

Suz

[x5girl]

Fathers occupation, Labourer, and the witnesses were John Thomas and John Morse. Spouse was Mary Thomas married at thr Parish Church Mathry..

[DORAN54]

hi,  there is a marriage for john Morse to Mary thomas  2nd quarter
1863  vol 11a page 1009 reg district haverfordwest.

which makes me think that the Morse family in the 1851 census could be yours
john Morse age 54 born 1797
Jane  wife          54
James  son       26
thomas  "         19
john       "        13
Charles    "        11
Edward    "         7


living at  60  shut street  haverfordwest


census piece 2478,folio 124
,page 12.

i don't know if you know west wales but camrose  haverfordwest  etc are all close by each other


if this is the family then john morse born 1797 was born bristol
 died  reg district  haverfordwest 1st quarter 1867  age 70
vol 11a  page 519

[DORAN54]

hi  john's mother jane born 1795 is on the 1871 census living alone age 76 birth place camrose point pembs where as on other census its  haverfordwest district.
and living next door is a catherine morse age 64  pauper and her son joshua age 26  a carpenter


also  on the 1841 census john morse born 1797 is an army seargant

[suzard]

there is also this family

1841
St Nicholas pembs
John Morse 40 labourer
Catharine 35
David 8
John 4
Sarah 3
Thomas 9mths
all b in county
HO107 1444 24 41

Suz

[suzard]

1861 John not at home -but Catherine states "Married"

1861
Barnsley Camrose Pembs
Catherine Morse Head Married 57 labourer's wife St Dogmells Pembs
David son U 26 ag lab St Nicholas pembs
George Thomas at nurse 5 Camrose
Phebe Morse at nurse 3 Camrose

a few doors away is Sarah Morse age 18 working as a servant

RG9 4166 10 13

It is possible Phebe Morse (nurse child) died 1869

wonder who the nurse children belonged to???

It is very difficult to decide which is the correct family

Suz

[x5girl]

Firstly thankyou both for your interest. As you said it is quite a difficult one this...
The "Haverfordwest" family in shut street I did initally think it could have been them but John senior is listed in 1861 as a Chelsea pensioner and before that in an earlier census as an army sergeant , this just dosent seem to sit right with me as his occupation on the marriage cert of his son John in 1863 was a Labourer. The St Nicholas/camrose Morses look interesting ,will have to look into them...

[suzard]

this could be John (husband of Catherine)

1851
Penyfidir  Mathry Pembs
John Morse labourer Married 50 St Lawrence Pembs
working for John Thomas (occ farmer) wife margaret , 4 children .
There are 4 servants in household too
HO107 2079 364 4

1861
Penyfidir Mathry pembs
John Morse labourer Married 61 ag labourer Pembrokeshire
working for John Thomas widower 76 farmer of 393 acres emp 7labs
son John,
4 servants who were Carters
also a Dairy maid, Barn maid, Kitchen maid

John is not described as a servant - burt labourer on both census

He must have been a very trusted employee

RG9 4168 28 9

Suz