James and Helen Burt

[b1gf00t]

This couple migrated to New Zealand from Liverpool in 1906 and settled in Dunedin. They had seven children. James must have falsified his birth date to enable him to make the voyage - it is shown as 59 when he left Liverpool but when he died in 1911 he was 71.
Their children were:
Helen Hume Milne Burt, married James Geary
Mary Murray Burt, married Alfred Millar McBride
Catherine Robertson Burt - never married
Andrew Burt - no information
Jemima Burns Burt - never married
James George Burt, married Margaret Knox Johnson and later, on her death, married Kathleen Harriet Rumble
Henry Milne Burt, married Eva Pattorson

My desire is to find out about any descendants of my grandmother's brothers, Andrew and Henry. I had believed that Andrew did not come to New Zealand but I have been assured that he did but separately from the others. Traces of the others have been found because they have more than one given name Andrew, on the other hand, appears to have had only one. I have been advised that his wife was Jenny but Jenny Who? As there were nicknames for Helen (known as Nellie), Catherine (known as Katy) and Jemima (known as Mimie) waht was Jenny given name.

I know Henry was a World War I veteran - he served and was wounded at Galipoli and also in France. I also know that he was married to Eva and lived in the Christchurch region.

I would appreciate any assistance in tracing descendants of these two men. 

[Janette]

Hello,

There is a probate for Henry Milne Burt at Archives in Christchurch

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22288386

And his WW1 file has been digitised and can be viewed here

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21890494&digital=yes


Cheers Janette

[Janette]

Here is Henry's marriage

1920/2380 Eva Maud  Pattorson to Henry Milne  Burt 

Cheers Janette

[Janette]

These are the marriages for Andrew Burt's

1915/2462 Winifred Doris  Halstead / Andrew  Burt 
1919/9632 Mary Jane  Kennedy / Andrew  Burt 
1927/3640 Mabel Eleith  Brechelt / Andrew James  Burt 
1915/10320 Jessie Elizabeth  Graham / Andrew Ramsay  Burt 
1931/10227 Mona Amy Gladys  Campbell  /Andrew Reid  Burt 
1910/4047 Marion  Shirkey  /Andrew Tannock  Burt

There is no Jenny,what was Andrew's birht date?

Cheers Janette

[Lucy2]

Hello

 .. and welcome.  

As you haven't given an idea of years of birth for Henry Milne and Andrew BURT, I've found it necessary to look back through some of your previous threads.

Henry was easy enough to find  - born circa 1891 ... and I see that back in 2008 on another thread, a chatter has provided "1 March 1882" as Andrew's birth date.
I notice also that the BURTs were all born in Scotland.
[It's helpful for us to have all this additional information. ]  

Henry Milne BURT was married in 1920 to Eva Maud PATTORSON (unusual spelling - maybe the "O" is an error ?)
[Birth details for any children of this couple, won't appear online as the index only goes up to "today's date", 1912.]

Sometimes the easiest route to tracing descendants, can be by sourcing death notices from newspapers.   [If this is something you're unable to do yourself, then there is generally a volunteer here, available to help out with the task.]

So firstly we should find where in NZ Henry died / is buried ?


 ~ Lu

[Janette]

Hi,

Henry's birth was 25/3/1891 according to his Nofification of Death in his WW1 file
His NoK was E M Burt 10 Conway St, Spreydon, Christchurch.

Cheers Janette

[Lucy2]

For Andrew BURT  ...   two possible NZ deaths :

1969 - aged 87 years -- bc 1882

1959 - aged 76 years -- bc 1883

 

[Janette]

Eva Maud was one of 3 children


1890/4039 Pattorson  Eva Maud to Annie and Par
1892/11860 Pattorson  Ada Eleanor to Annie and Par
1895/4783 Pattorson  William Peter to Annie and Par

Her parents marriage
1889/865 Annie  Dix to Par  Pattorson 


Cheers Janette

[b1gf00t]

Thanks for information provided thus far.
I know of Henry's WW 1 record. My motivation to find that was a message from a Scottish contact, Peter Milne. Peter advised me of the Milne connection in the Burt family. He advised of an elderly cousin of his who remembers a young New Zealand soldier visiting near the end of the War. She said he had advised that he was a relation.
No, the "o" in Pattorson is not a mistake. I found the burial records for Eva's parents in the Dunedin cemetery records.
Regards
Barrie