Llanrwst

[SP]

My grand dad was born in Llanrwst in 1901 the family were living at 4 Lomax Terrace Llanrwst, father Henry/Harry, mother Annie(nee Evans)
Margaret Anne abt 1890. Robert 1892,Mary about 1894, Samuel about 1896 Llewellyn about 1899 and Willie 1901.

I do have one other address where they lived later but do not know if it is spellt correctly!! 4 Glan Gorwog Terrace?.

I have been told that Anne died(?) and Henry/Harry remarried she was from Breconshire.

Henry/Harry's parents were hawkers, one of his uncles was a master painter-John Davies 12 Factory Street Denbeigh??, an Aunt Mary Louisa married a Robert Greslen

I would very much appreciate any help or advice, as it would be marvelous to find relatives still around the area.

[D ap D]

I take it that if you have the address in 1901, you have the 1901 census?

Do you also have the 91 census entries? Or would you like a look-up?

Do you have a surname for your granddad?

With this info, I could do a lookup for you back to 1861. If your granddads grandparents were from Llanrwst ,I can also have a look in the parish registers which go up to 1813 - I need a bit more info though.

D

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D

Thank you for your very kind offer.
No I do not have the census, a friend of mine looked up the details for me, this is what I have on the family in 1901

Henry/Harry Davies head   age 35 brn abt 1866 in Denbigh a hawker
Anne Ellen (known as Annie) nee Evans  wife 30yrs  brn abt 1871  also a hawker born Llanymychach Montgomery

children
Margaret Ann brn 1890c
Robert 1892c
Mary
Samuel 1896c in Flint St Asaph
John
Llewellyn 1899c Merioneth Bala we think he emigrated to America
Willie 17/02/1901

I do not have any other information on Annie the mother.

The mother died? and is buried in Llanrwst.

Henry/Harry remarried dont know name she was from Breconshire I think.
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I have just rechecked my notes and the address in Llanrwst was 4 Llan Gorweg/Gorwen, Terrace Llanrwst.

Two of the sons Samuel and ? married two sisters and lived in Machynllth (?)

A member of the family was a horse dealer, and travelled to all the markets and fairs.

D  hope this helps you
I thank you in advance as I am going round in circles

Sue

[SP]

Just checking as I have been away
Sue

[D ap D]

Sorry Sue, I forgot to look.

Anyway here is the family in Llanrwst in 1901:

Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship 
Henry Davies abt 1866  Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales Head 
Anne Davies abt 1871  Llanymychach, Montgomeryshire, Wales Wife 
Maggie A Davies abt 1891  Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales Daughter 
Robert Davies abt 1893  Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales Son 
Samuel Davies abt 1896  St Asaph, Flintshire, Wales Son 
Llewelyn Davies abt 1899  Bala, Merionethshire, Wales Son 
Willie Davies abt 1901  Llanrwst, Denbighshire, Wales Son 

Source information:    RG13/5241
Registration district:    Llanrwst
Folio / page:    50  /39

in 1891 in Llanfwrog

Source information:    RG12/4621
Registration district:    Ruthin 
Folio / page:    34  /1

Name     age
Henry Davies, 25 , head, born Ruthin, pedlar, both Welsh and English
Anne, 25, , born Oswestry MGY, both Welsh and English
Margt Ann, 5 mo, born Ruthin,

1881 is a bit more difficult. I think I have the right one, but all Henry Davies' born in 1866 are still living at home. There are 2 born in Denbighshire, one in Chirk, on in Wrexham. I'll go for Chirk as the Wxm one is Henry O. Davies.

RG11/5514  Wrexham  Ruabon 
Folio:    101 
Page:    32
New Bridge, Ruabon
Henry Davies, 15 , Son, born:   Chirk, Denbighshire,  Coal Miner 

for Ann:
there is only one Ann E. Evans, born in MGY
Address:    Tany Derwen Farm  , Llangedwyn , DEN
Ann E. Evans , 9 , Daughter, born:    Llanfair, MGY, Farmer Daughter 
RG11/5499 
Folio / page:    154  / 4
Registration district:    Llanfyllin 
Sub-registration district:    Llanrhaiadr 

Let me know what you think about the 81, and I'll look at 71 for you.

D


 

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D
Thank you very much for that.
Go for the 1871, Harrys dad is called John,  his first wife was Margaret, then he remarried an Eliza/Elizabeth have no dates though sorry



Sue

[D ap D]

Hi Sue,

if Harrys dad is called John, that counts out my suggestion for 81.

 15 Nelson St , Birkenhead, Cheshire
  PRO Ref   RG11 / 3580 / 37
  Page 52
John DAVIES   Head   M   Male   41   Chester, Cheshire, Shipwright     
 Eliza DAVIES   Wife   M   Female   38   Cambridge,
 Henry W. DAVIES   Son   U   Male   15   Flint, Wales   Scholar     
 Ada M. DAVIES   Daur      Female   3   Bhead, Cheshire,
 Eliza (Twin) DAVIES   Daur      Female   1   Bhead, Cheshire,
 Ann (Twin) DAVIES   Daur      Female   1   Bhead, Cheshire,

Or 3 others, using a time range of 2 years:
Select records to download - (50 maximum)
 1. Henry DAVIES -  Cheshire , Son   Birth: <1864> Rhyl, Denbigh,
 2. Henry DAVIES -  Denbigh , Serv   Birth: <1865> Henllan, Denbigh,
 3. Henry DAVIES -  Denbigh Son   Birth: <1864> Ruabon, Denbigh,

Non of whose fathers are hawkers. I would suggest you take a look at the 81 census and let me know which one you think is the right one (I would hazard a guess at no 2).

I'll see what I can find in 71

D
 


 

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Dewi
I am truly sorry to have caused you so much work, my apologies.
What is worse, is that I did have the information but was on the hard drive which crashed and had problems, so we bought a new pc instead and having to start from sratch!! this time I will print off any records, we have to learn from our mistakes!!!!!!!!!!

I think Henllan Street rings a bell, trying to think of other children names, also not sure but think Jon's brother Edward from Aberegele(?) staying with them, and she had a baby Edward about 5-7 mths if I can remember

Hope this will help you?
Regards
Sue

[D ap D]

Hi Sue,

here's the family in 1871 in Minera, Den:

RG10/5656
Registration district:    Wrexham
Folio / page:    89  / 22
Sched. :    118

John Davies abt 1834  Ruthin, Denbighshire, Head
Eliza Davies abt 1841  Denbighshire, Wife 
Edward Davies abt 1837  Abergele, Brother 
John Davies abt 1854  Ruthin, Denbighshire, Son 
Thomas Davies abt 1859  Ruthin, Denbighshire, Son 
Ann Davies abt 1863  Ruthin, Daughter 
Henry Davies abt 1865  Ruthin, Denbighshire, Son 
Edward Davies abt 1870  Black Diamond, Flintshire, Son 

Looks like I've found the brother Edward in 61. Will send the image.
Can't find John or any of the children. As the 61 isn't yet complete, I dare say, they aren't on it yet.

Have you also got the BMD for Henry's birth?

DAVIES, Henry
Quarter/year :    March 1866
District:    Wrexham
County:    Cheshire Denbighshire Flintshire
Volume /page:    11b /313