Bristol parishes

[Old Bristolian]

For the inner city you could try the map on this site:

http://brisray.com/bristol/bound1.htm

The county maps published by the Institute of Heraldic & Genealogical Studies are good, but I'm not sure you can get online versions.

I have good maps for the city c1820 showing parish boundaries both inner & outer city ones, but they are in a book, so I can't easily copy them. If you needed precise details (eg which street is in which parish) I can let you know, but I think you just require an idea of the parishes & their postion regarding each other if I'm correct

Steve

[wonkiewidge]

Hi,

Thanks for the offer Steve, but I don't really know where to start looking. I have William & his parents family starting off in St. Michaels parish in the 1790's, then moving onto St. Paul's & finally ending up in St James' parish by 1803.

William then moved to London somewhere between 1831 - 37. This I worked out from the places of birth of his children on the '41 & '51 census returns (just given as Bristol). In one of the later returns William's son William gives his place of birth as Bristol then it looks like 'Kingsdown'?

I haven't been able to find the baptism records of his 'Bristol' children either. I was hoping to maybe find a marriage in the same parish as the children's baptisms.

Do you have any suggestions as to where I might start looking? The map showing the marriages covered by the Bristol & Avon FHS' CDs

http://www.bafhs.org.uk/images/marriage%20map.jpg

seem to have all the parishes pretty sewn up.

 

Linda

Plummiegirl,...... do you think BAFHS might email me a hi-res copy of the map?

[Old Bristolian]

Hi Linda

Kingsdown was almost totally in St James parish at this time, although the western edge was in St Michaels. These two parishes, along with St Pauls occupy the area to the north & north-east of the old city and I find ancestors of mine moved fairly frequently between them.

If the marriage you are seeking isn't on the BAFHS cds, I can't think what to suggest - where did the family originate, assuming it wasn't Bristol?

Steve

[wonkiewidge]

Hi Steve,

I traced the England family out of London and back to Bristol. The earliest I have is a marriage of a Joel England to an Elizabeth Drew in St. Stephen Bristol on 26 March 1793.

Another Rootschatter was kind enough to supply me with the information from her comprehensive set of CDs.
She also had the Burgesses Cd and was able to tell me that Joel (William's father) was apprenticed to Richard Hill a tiler & plasterer in Bristol. He was made a Burgess on 12 August 1799. From a possible burial record of Joel in St Michael on 19 March 1820, Joel's date of birth was around 1765.

Of course it is entirely possible that Joel wasn't from Bristol, but his son William was (bapt. at St paul's).

So it seems that I should be looking in the Kingsdown area, but this seems to have been covered.

Martha Harper (his bride) I think I have found a baptism for. On the IGI (unconfirmed) there is a Baptism in Bristol on 25 December 1798 which ties in nicely (William's was 1799). Father William Harper and mother Martha. Unfortunately it doesn't say which church in Bristol (really useful), it only gives a batch number C017184 , and I don't know how to find out which church this covers.

Didn't marriages usually take place in the bride's parish? Maybe this could hold the key, even if it's only to confirm they were in a similar area.

Any ideas would be welcome,

Linda

[Old Bristolian]

Hi Linda

Difficult to know where to go - I see you have already posted a general request for the marriage on the lookup forum - the person who replied listed the parishes they had checked - I notice the list omits St Michaels, St Peters & St Philip & St Jacob. It might be worth asking again for a specific lookup in those parishes - I've found a few marriages in St Philip & St Jacobs especially - it was a large parish and borders St Pauls to the south. I think St Peters (the mother parish of Bristol) may have lost its registers in the Blitz. You can always check the online list which is on the Bristol RO site - it shows what survives & is held there.

I've never had much joy with IGI batch numbers - there is a site which lists them - I checked but the number you give isn't listed under Bristol - I assume the origin of the batch is some amalgamted list which has entries from several parishes - as you say the LDS don't seem too helpful as to sources

Steve

[wonkiewidge]

OK Steve,

Thanks for your help.

Perhaps someone else might pick up the thread. I think I'll do what you say, and request a specific look up. I think I might set up a post in the general section asking if anyone knows what source the batch number comes from.

Cheers,


Linda

Just checked the BRO list, and you were right. The St. Peter's registers were destroyed, but some transcripts survive.

[Old Bristolian]

I see Stan has found the batch number for you - it looks like a specific request for St Philip & St Jacobs for the marriage would now be called for

Steve

[janeeidden]

when I was looking for a marriages not on the disc,I found one in St Georges church,and then another on in Kingswood ,Bristol which is indexed as Keynsham. do you have any addresses at all. If you do I will try to locate the parish for you.
Jane

[wonkiewidge]

Hello Jane,

Unfortunately I don't have any addresses, I don't even know which parish. All I know is that William England & Martha Harper came from Bristol (from the 1851 census record in London).

I have found William's baptism record in St Paul's Bristol 8 Sept 1799, and those of his brothers & sisters in St. Pauls and later in St James. I have found his parents marriage and his fathers apprenticeship records, but this hasn't helped either.

One of William's Bristol son's describes himself as coming from the Kingsdown area of Bristol which I understand is mostly the area of St James with a bit of St Michael. This would fit in with what I know.

Thanks for taking the time to look.

Linda