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1841 or 51 census look-up for James Sharp
« on: Monday 06 February 12 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I'm looking for other children of James (b.1802) & Jane Sharp.
St. Stephans, St. Albans, Herts
I have one son - William (b.1821) and hoping for more!
Thnx
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Re: 1841 or 51 census look-up for James Sharp
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 00:44 GMT (UK) »
1841 has only one James Sharp living in St Stephens aged 40 and he was married to Elizabeth.  There is no entry for a James & Jane Sharp in that age range in either 1841 or 1851

Perhaps Jane died and John re-married


Have you tried a parent search on the IGI and IGI Pilot site?

PARENT SEARCH ON IGI

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Input fathers name and surname and  mothers christian name  (in Scotland - also input mothers maiden name if known)

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Re: 1841 or 51 census look-up for James Sharp
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 10:00 GMT (UK) »
Possible 2nd Marriage;
James SHARP/Elizabeth MYLER, 15 October 1825, Saint Stephens, Saint Albans, Hertford, England

On the same Batch as WILLIAM Sharp 11 March 1821, Abbey, St Albans, Herts to JAMES/JANE are;
JOSIAH 18 April 1819
JOHN 11 March 1821
Although William/John were christened the same day it does not mean they were Twins. Often to save money children were christened together.

1841 Census
St Stephens, Hertfordshire
HO107/439/4/St Stephens
James SHARP, 40, Ag Lab
Elizabeth, 35
Ann, 15
Christening;
ANN Sharp, 18 Dec 1825, Saint Stephens, Saint Albans, Hertford to JAMES/ELIZABETH
So 1825 Marriage looks good although Elizabeth would be ready to give Birth!

There is a JONATHAN MILAH Sharp christened 12 Oct 1828, Saint Stephens to James/Elizabeth also (he may have died)
This seems to confirm the Marriage although name is a little out.

Trish :)
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Re: 1841 or 51 census look-up for James Sharp
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 10:18 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census
Frogmoor,
St Albans/St Stephens, Hertfordshire
HO107/1713/564/25
James SHARP, 48, Head, Mar, Carrier
Elizabeth, Wife, Mar
Ann, 25, Daug, Unm, Bonnet Maker
John BURGESS, 10, Nephew, Scholar
All down as born Herts, St Stephens

1861 Census
St Alban/St Stephen, Herts
RG9/831/91/26
James is born c 1802, St Stephens and is a Coal Dealer/Grocer
Elizabeth is born c 1805 St Stephens. They have 1 Servant.

1871 he is a Grocer born c 1803.
RG10/1379/155/37

Are any of those the correct Occp's for Williams Father James on his Marriage Cert?
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Re: 1841 or 51 census look-up for James Sharp
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 14:51 GMT (UK) »
Thank you to Carole & Trish

Looks like a 2nd marriage may have occurred. I hope so, I'd hate to lose
some of my findings but still I want to be accurate!!

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Re: 1841 or 51 census look-up for James Sharp
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 14:54 GMT (UK) »
True!
Do you have Williams Marriage Cert? Does the Fathers Occp tally?
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Re: 1841 or 51 census look-up for James Sharp
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 15:11 GMT (UK) »
No Marriage Cert but that will be my next step.
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Re: 1841 or 51 census look-up for James Sharp
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 February 12 15:12 GMT (UK) »
That is the way to go :)
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