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John Crawford - Lighterman
« on: Friday 17 February 12 14:46 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if anyone can help me. I'm researching my 3x Great Grandfather John Crawford. He was born in Ireland around 1795. According to the 1851 Census in Stepney it states his occupation as a Lighterman and on the 1861 census it states 'Trinity Pensioner'. Also his son, William, on both the 1861 and 1871 census' has his occupation as a Trinity Lighterman.

Where would I be able to get any information on the above? Any help would be very much appreciated. Thank you.

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Re: John Crawford - Lighterman
« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 February 12 14:52 GMT (UK) »
http://www.watermenshall.org/  This guild is very useful their records go back since the Guild started, they can give date of apprenticeship who introduced the apprentice etc, two members of my family were watermen and they were very helpful, there is a small charge for info
Knight (Nottingham & Hants) Hancock, (Kent) , Hancox (Warwickshire), Linneys (Hants) Brothers (Langford, Beds,East London), Bridgers (East London)

Other restorers please feel free to use my work if wished

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Re: John Crawford - Lighterman
« Reply #2 on: Friday 17 February 12 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Most of the Company of Watermen's records, such as apprenticeship records, are also either deposited at the Guildhall Library or on microfilm there.

The Guildhall Library guide to the records

http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/water.htm

Information from the guide

'The Corporation of Trinity House also licensed watermen. These men were ex-mariners and therefore became watermen in their 30s, 40s, 50s or even 60s rather than at 21. They were also much fewer in number than the Company's watermen. The only surviving register of Trinity House watermen covers 1829-1864 (MS 30335)'

Other Trinity House records held by the Guildhall Library

http://www.history.ac.uk/gh/thouse2.htm


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Re: John Crawford - Lighterman
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 February 12 15:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both very much for your help.


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Re: John Crawford - Lighterman
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 04 May 13 06:52 BST (UK) »
     I think your John Crawford is an ancestor of mine. His daughter Rosa/Rosina was my G'Grandmother. She married a Michael Scully who was also a Trinity lighterman as was his father Peter Scully. I do not have much information on John Crawford just that he was born in Sellidge, Ireland in 1795 but would like to hear from you.
                                         Thanks,
                                              Lynnmarg.vbvbtf

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Re: John Crawford - Lighterman
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 May 13 12:35 BST (UK) »
Hello Tigee,
               I am having trouble working out the RootsWeb system. I have had a helpful email and now know I have to have made three posts before I can answer or PM you. This is two will send another.                                                                                                                                                                       Regards,
                                         Lynn.

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Re: John Crawford - Lighterman
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 May 13 12:38 BST (UK) »
Hello again,
                We certainly have a common ancestor in John Crawford. Do you have any information on William's sibling's? I will send more on a PM.
                                       regards,
                                           Lynn.

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Re: John Crawford - Lighterman
« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 May 13 14:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Lynn,

Yes there were 8 children as far as I know of John and Elizabeth. As well as Rosina and William (b. abt 1835) there were Mary Ann (b. abt 1835), Elizabeth (b. abt 1839), Edward (b. abt 1841 & d. 1841), Peter (b. abt 1842), Catherine (b. abt 1846) and Lawrence (b. abt 1848).

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Re: John Crawford - Lighterman
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 July 13 14:34 BST (UK) »
I'm a 3x great granddaughter of John Crawford. His daughter, Elizabeth, born 1838 came to Australia in 1857 and married Robert Harland. They had eight children. Her sister, Catherine, came later to Australia and married a Thomas Chicken. They lived on the goldfields of Ballarat in Victoria. Elizabeth died in 1921. Does anyone have an accurate surname for their mother, Elizabeth? Family notes record "Carley." I have not been able to locate any baptismal records for John, nor his parents' names.