Harriet CLARKE family

[judb]

Neil, I am looking at the image of the 1841 census not a transcription. 

The ladies I mention have "Ind" in the occupation column which, in my experience, means that they have independent means; the others are clearly marked F S or M S indicating hat they are female or male servants.  20year-old George (can't read his surname) definitely has the occupation of M S. Workhouse inmates often listed as 'inmate' or even 'pauper'.  Looking at the image you can see where the enumerator has marked the separate households.  The household before them is that of a clergyman with a young family and 8 servants  ; the one after is a grocer, then two pubs.  Workhouses usually have many more than 6 inmates.

Genuki makes this comment about Louth work-house
After the Poor Law reforms of 1834, the Louth Poor Law Union was formed on 12 April 1837 to serve the needs of 86 local parishes. The new Union Work House was erected in 1837 on Holme Lane on the north side of Louth, just east of Grimsby Road. It was designed to accommodate 350 inmates.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/Louth/louth_workhouse.html

However another site suggests that there may have been a parish workhouse in NorthGate.  The houses listed are in Upgate near to Westgate.  Upgate appears to be a main street in Louth.  Nice pic here
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&tab=wl

and here - the flickerphoto site also has a pic of the Black Bull yard which was 3 properties away from the house in question

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jkslouth/2314093073/in/set-72157601587777614

However is it the right Harriet 


Judith

[Neil Todd]

My apologies i will leave you experts to it.

[judb]

Adding the ref on TROVE for the arrival
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/38450322

I note there was a Thos Clarke on board 

Judith

[LHurrey]

Thank you both. That's the brilliance of this site, lots of different people with different skills looking at this with different eyes. I appreciate all angles and always learn something new.

You're right Neil, bit of a bounder but at least the kids get passed off to rellies (or forced on the new wife  ) and don't seem to end up in workhouses at least  

Potentially more info on Harriet's death cert (even though father listed as unknown)...may have to purchase it.

I hadn't noticed the Thos Clarke Judith, good spot.

[judb]

hooray - I think this looks promising -

1841 Census
Fishtoft, Licolnshire (no other details for address)

Will'm CLARKE, 40, ag lab,
Mary, 35
Hariet, 12
George 10
Isabella, 4

I don't know why this didn't show when I searched the indexes 

Judith

[LHurrey]

Good catch Judith!  The age is pretty good and the birth location. I guess at 92 there's few people around to remember parents names so the death reg could be wrong. And Harriet disappears from the family in the next two censuses.

I'll post on the Lincolnshire board tomorrow or the next day.

[judb]

I can't see baptisms for any of the 3 1841 CLARKE children on FamilySearch.  There are 2 other CLARKE families in Fishtoft in 1841 but I could not see any other Harriets (of any spelling)

An aside - There is a monument to the Pilgrim Fathers’ in Fishtoft near the spot where they are said to have attempted to set sail for Holland.

[LHurrey]

Thanks Judith. It's interesting that there are no christenings...I'll try to follow this family tonight and see where they lead me.

I've posted on the Lincolnshire board as suggested http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,582746.0.html
Fingers crossed!

[judb]

It's only that there are no baptisms listed on FamilySearch.  This does not mean that there aren't any.  I did see a couple of the other CLARKE family baptisms listed at Fishtoft.  However it just may be that the actual records are lost or have not been collected by the Mormons, or your family were non-conformists, or the children may have been baptised somewhere else or much later than their birth.  I know there are churches who do not give the Mormons access - Roman Catholic in particular. 

I do wish we knew how to get hold of the shipping register.


Judith