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HarryPoole & Elsie Poole nee Phillips
« on: Tuesday 28 February 12 05:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I dont know much about Gloucestershire research, so was wondering if someone could give me ideas about how to find the above couple.

I think harry was born in 1907 I know he was born in Ashleworth, Gloucester.  The info given to me suggests he was born in 1905, however that cant be him due to the fact he died in March 1927 and my Harry Poole married in December 1927.

I have also been told that harry's fathers name was George Poole of "the quay" Ashleworth.  No mothers name.

This is all i have to work with.

Thanks for any help offered.

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Re: HarryPoole & Elsie Poole nee Phillips
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 February 12 07:01 GMT (UK) »
The first thing to do is to confirm Harry's father's name.
The marriage certificate or the birth certificate would confirm that.

Births, December qtr 1907
Gloucester district (which includes Ashleworth)    vol 6a, page 286

Poole, Harry

Assuming George is correct, this is the only match in the 1901 census:
Reference RG13, Piece 2423, Folio 103, Page 2
Nupend, Ashleworth

Poole, George  Head  M  34  Carter on Farm  b Coriap, Worcestershire
Poole, Sophia  Wife  F  35  b Ashleworth

You might want to check the 1911 census to get the names of Harry's brothers and/or sisters.
(We can't do it because of copyright restrictions)

And a marriage:
December qtr 1900
Gloucester district    vol 6a, page 651

Poole, George
Smith, Sophia
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Re: HarryPoole & Elsie Poole nee Phillips
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 28 February 12 07:02 GMT (UK) »
Using the free search facility on the 1911 census site I entered Harry Poole born Ashleworth 1907 +/- 1 and up came an entry. residence in the Thornbury district, So I then entered just the surname, born in Ashleworth and the district and got a
George Archa 1901, Sophia 1867, Harry 1907 and William henry 1904.

So I went to FreeBMD and looked for a marriage for a Sophia to a Poole and in Dec 1/4 1900 George Poole married Sophia Smith Gloucester vol 6a page 651.

!901 census RG13/2423/103/2
George Poole 34 Csrter on farm born Corcep? Worcester
Sopia 35 born Ashleworth

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Re: HarryPoole & Elsie Poole nee Phillips
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 28 February 12 07:10 GMT (UK) »
1891 census
Reference RG12, 2010, 69, 12
Near Goss Farm, Broad Street, Ashleworth

Watts, Joseph  Head  M  36  Ag Lab  b Ashleworth
Watts, Elizabeth  Wife  F  26  Dressmaker  b Ashleworth
Watts, Gertrude M  Daughter  F  2  b Ashleworth
Smith, Sophia  Sister  Single  F  24  General Domestic Servant  b Ashleworth
Smith, William  Nephew  M  1 month  b Ashleworth
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Re: HarryPoole & Elsie Poole nee Phillips
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 28 February 12 07:11 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to both KGarrad and Crisanne for your help.  I am going to request that certs are brought to confirm info.

MY only worry now is that George was known as George Poole of "the Quay" Ashleworth, and now it looks like he wasnt born in Gloucester as the family info suggests.....if it is the right George, though i cant really find any other Harry Pooles in Ashleworth......

Thanks again for your help

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Re: HarryPoole & Elsie Poole nee Phillips
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 February 12 07:12 GMT (UK) »
 :D  KGarrad

Thanks for the Smith info i thought she was going to be hard to find .......:-)

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Re: HarryPoole & Elsie Poole nee Phillips
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 February 12 07:21 GMT (UK) »
George Poole, born c 1867 Worcestershire is proving elusive!
Can't find him in 1891 or 1881 or birth on FreeBMD.

So, your info may well be right!

While I can't mention the 1911, I can say that the county of birth that he writes there matches what we have so far?! :-\


Normally finding Smiths would be a nightmare!
But Sophia isn't a common name, and Ashleworth isn't that big!! ;D
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Re: HarryPoole & Elsie Poole nee Phillips
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 28 February 12 07:31 GMT (UK) »
KGarrad

Thanks

i will check againt the unmentionable tomorrow at the library and see what is on there too..................  the original date they gave me for Harry was 1905 and he just not there.  so if Ashworth................sorry Ashleworth then that has got to be it, as for his dad........George......humph..........i found a george born Ashleworth in 1871, sorry another friend found that for me
  Has him born in 1868..........still not sure if that him though.........

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Re: HarryPoole & Elsie Poole nee Phillips
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 February 12 07:38 GMT (UK) »
Back to Sophie:

1881 census, reference RG11, 2530, 103, 21
Cottage, The Green, Ashleworth

Smith, William  Head  M  45  Ag Lab
Smith, Martha  Wife  F  44  Charwoman
Smith, Giles  Son  M  20  Fisherman
Smith, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  18  Dressmaker
Smith, Sophia  Daughter  F  15  Unemployed
Smith, Samuel  Son  M  12  Ag Lab
Smith, Edwin  Son  M  9  Scholar
Smith, Annie  Daughter  F  6  Scholar
Smith, Charles  Son  M  4
Smith, Alice  Granddaughter  F  2 months      all born Ashleworth
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)