The Will of Admiral Arthur Phillip

[goldie61]

I'm pretty sure the end of the witness section is:  ...Clerks to Mr: Mant

There are some Ms in the smaller image on page 5.

And it's just dawned on me one of the witnesses is Henry Mant (in the line above).

[RobinBClay]

This has been an interesting thread and a great effort by all transcribers. 

Robin, may I ask if you are a descendant of Arthur Phillip? If not, what are your plans for the transcription of the will?

Yes.

You may ask.

I'm not.

... so I googled our Admiral, and discovered that the Museum of New South Wales has an "interest" in him.

So here's what I wrote on their Contact Us form :-
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The Last Will & Testament of Admiral Arthur Phillip
http://archival.sl.nsw.gov.au/Details/archive/110315657
is being transcribed at
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=584967.0

If you would give me a proper e-mail address, when it's complete I can send you a WORD document or .PDF.
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and I received a nice reply :-
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Please send the transcription to my email address [redacted] in WORD format. Im informed that we can then get it 'ingested' and linked to our catalogue record. Thank you for offering this valuable addition to our holdings.
Kind regards,
Colin
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... to which I replied:-
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I happened to come across a folder in  remote recess of a backup !

So I did a Google search, and found that I had started to put it up at that rootschat WebSite on: 2 March 2012  !

I seem to recall I received the original scans from one Johnny Sykes, a descendant of the Admiral, now living in the UK.
That was three computers ago, and three changes of e-mail programs, so NOW, I am afraid I cannot track those originals, nor the original e-mails, nor his address.  But he was “active” on that WebSite six weeks ago under the name “genealogistsykes “.

I had sent him my files, which he then put up on that WebSite for a while, then he (& I !) went to sleep….

When I re-discovered this, I put up the rest, tranche by tranche, and have now done them all.

I don’t seem to have those original files, but I cut them up into small chunks and numbered each line, and these chunks I posted on that WebSite, whose members have now transcribed it all.

So if you want those, you can fetch them from there.  Also the texts, of course.

I attach the transcription as a WORD document, also with comments at the end, and the snippets.  If you would like the “full page” version, they are BIG .bmps, so I can send them one at a time if you want.

Do whatever you want with it all – I am only a “facilitator” !
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... and I am now bound to thank you all for that  valuable transcription work, and also for your useful comments.

Thank you all, for a job well done !   

[Ruskie]

That's wonderful Robin! A very worthwhile project, and for those who transcribed, a rewarding outcome I would think.

You would expect the will to have been transcribed before but it is surprising that it is not obviously available anywhere.

Excellent.

PS. Maybe keep an eye on what the Museum does with the transcription - if they publish it the rootschat founders Sarah and Trystan may be interested to include it in their "rootschat CV". 

[goldie61]

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So here's what I wrote on their Contact Us form :-
###################################
The Last Will & Testament of Admiral Arthur Phillip
http://archival.sl.nsw.gov.au/Details/archive/110315657
is being transcribed at
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=584967.0

If you would give me a proper e-mail address, when it's complete I can send you a WORD document or .PDF.
###################################

and I received a nice reply :-
---------------------------------------------------------
Please send the transcription to my email address [redacted] in WORD format. Im informed that we can then get it 'ingested' and linked to our catalogue record. Thank you for offering this valuable addition to our holdings.
Kind regards,
Colin
 --------------------------------------------------

... to which I replied:-
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 
I happened to come across a folder in  remote recess of a backup !

So I did a Google search, and found that I had started to put it up at that rootschat WebSite on: 2 March 2012  !

I seem to recall I received the original scans from one Johnny Sykes, a descendant of the Admiral, now living in the UK.
That was three computers ago, and three changes of e-mail programs, so NOW, I am afraid I cannot track those originals, nor the original e-mails, nor his address.  But he was “active” on that WebSite six weeks ago under the name “genealogistsykes “.

I had sent him my files, which he then put up on that WebSite for a while, then he (& I !) went to sleep….

When I re-discovered this, I put up the rest, tranche by tranche, and have now done them all.

I don’t seem to have those original files, but I cut them up into small chunks and numbered each line, and these chunks I posted on that WebSite, whose members have now transcribed it all.

So if you want those, you can fetch them from there.  Also the texts, of course.

I attach the transcription as a WORD document, also with comments at the end, and the snippets.  If you would like the “full page” version, they are BIG .bmps, so I can send them one at a time if you want.

Do whatever you want with it all – I am only a “facilitator” !
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That's all very interesting Robin.
A new memorial to him in 2014 in Westminster Abbey, which Price Philip attended evidently!
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/.../ 4421aa6fd85bd7580407134858df6560
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-10/memorial-stone-to-admiral-arthur-philip-at-westminster-abbey/5587082
Wow! "Founder of modern Australia" no less!

[goldie61]

Here's a picture of him from wikipedia.
Always nice to put a face to a name. 

Looks a bit worried don't you think? 

[RobinBClay]

Oh...

Dear !

I have just discovered - what I should have remembered - this RootsChat "rule" -

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Please note that a transcription by somebody else is their own work, which you cannot copy unless they have given their permission.
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So I suppose I should ask all you brilliant transcribers if you would be so kind as to accept that you don't mind that I have passed your work on to the NSW Museum - and to the wider world, I guess !
If you''re not happy with that, well ...  mea culpa - I can only apologise.

I suggest perhaps that you send an e-mail through the form at
https://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/research-and-collections-ask-librarian/ask-librarian-request?referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sl.nsw.gov.au%2Fcontact-us

Maybe something along these lines ?  [I am not a lawyer !];-
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For the attention of Colin Warner, please.

Robin Clay has sent you the transcription of the Will of Arthur Phillips.
For your information, I was one of the transcribers, and have the Copyright of my work, which I am pleased to transfer to you, on the understanding that
a) the work be "in the Public Domain", and
b) my work is acknowledged collectively in a form such as this

"This transcription was performed pro bono by these members of the RootsChat Group, [names] who have kindly transferred their Copyright to us.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=584967.0"

My nom de Plume is ?
but my real name is ?
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I hope that covers it - feel free to do whatever you think best...

[horselydown86]

Can't be bothered with an email, Robin.

I hereby give permission for you to send my portions of the transcript to the NSW Museum and for the NSW Museum to do with them whatsoever they wish.

[goldie61]

Bit busy the next few days Robin.
Will get back to you.

I see most of the original transcribers have not been active on here for several years:
'Veeblemort" since Jan 2016
'Koromo' since May 2015
'mgf' since May 2015

They did the transcribing to start with for genealogistsykes back in 2012.Be hard to track them down now.

'Alexander' is the only one still active, and they haven't contributed since the beginning days - perhaps they didn't know the thread had been re-opened.

[Ruskie]

If it is a rootschat rule, and the rootschat transcribers have willingly transcribed and understand where their transcription is ending up and have given you permission to do whatever you want with it, why is it necessary to send emails to Colin Warner? 

I wouldn’t worry too much about it - I think you’ll be safe without formal written permission.

....and, if the NSW museum have a link to this thread they can read the transcriber’s comments for themselves.