COMPLETED Baptism Susan Sarah Ann Orton 1877

[Scunny28]

I am attempting to find my Gt Grandmother's birth, but without success. Her father, a lab/Bricklayer  was a Thomas Orton b.1847 Enderby, Leics and mother Catherine E (Wilford) b. 1844 Great Glen, Leics. I have purchased birth certificates but the parents were incorrect. I am now trying to see if she was baptised somewhere in the City of Leicester. The family lived in Crab Street in 1871 and Lord Street in 1881. This was the civil parish of St. Margaret's but Christ Church ecclesiatiscal parish. She was born about 1877 in Leicester. I do not know where these streets are personally, probably demolished by now. Any help would be very gratefully received.

Scunny28

[avm228]

Hi

Is Susannah HORTON, birth reg Dec qtr 1877 Leicester, one of those you have already ruled out?

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s Again. …Scunny. 28.

 .........Try this one for size. ……


1878.
St: Margaret’s Parish Church.
Leicester.

Baptism Register Entry No’. 16.

Susannah. Daughter of Thomas & Catherine Elizabeth Orton.
Bapt. 8th. July.

MIKE. ……

[Scunny28]

Hello
Thanks Mike, that looks like it could be my Susan. She was known as Susan by the family but on other documents it is Susan Sarah Ann or just Sarah Ann. Was there any other information such as an address or father's trade mentioned? Could you possibly see if there were any other children, I believe two Catherine Elizabeth's were born one 1868 and died 1869, the other 1871 and died 1872. There may have been others but I have no names. Thank you.

To avm228 no I haven't ruled that one out, the date looks promising and I now know she was a Susannah. Will have to try that one.

Scunny28

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s Again Scunny 28.

Possible Sister ? ……..
St: Margaret’s Parish Church.
Leicester.

1873.
Reg Entry No’. 1650.

Jane Mary. Daughter of Thomas & Catherine Elizabeth Orton...Bapt 11th. August.

I’ll have to look at the original Registers for Father’s Occupation & Address.
For BOTH entries ……

MIKE. ……

[Scunny28]

Hello Mike
That would be wonderful if you could, I take it this information is not on your own copy. Its very frustrating not living close enough to do these things for myself.

Many thanks.

Scunny28

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s Again. ……..

St: Margaret’s Parish Baptism Registers

 Read thus :~

1873.
Entry No’. 1650. 11th. August.

Mary Jane. Daughter of Thomas & Catherine Elizabeth Orton.
Of Osborne Street..
Father a Labourer. ……

J. Bell. Curate.

1878.
Entry No’. 16...... 8th. July.

Susannah. Daughter of Thomas & Catherine Orton.
Of Fleet Street.
Father a Labourer.

Lewis Clayton. Vicar. .

And your Bonus……………

ST.MARY’S de CASTRO    Parish Church.

1866.
Entry No’. 419. 28th May.

Thomas Orton. 20. Bachelor. Labourer. The Hollow.
Father:~ Frederick Orton. Bricklayer.

Catherine Elizabeth Wilford. 23.Spinster. Harvey Lane.
Father :~ NO names given just a line through both columns.

Married by Banns by Me :~ Wm. J. Smith.

Both made their Marks …..Thomas…..X Catherine. ….+

In the presence of :~ Alfred White. Elizabeth Heighton.  .

I’ve done a bit of digging about on Catherine.. ………


BAPTISM :~

1844.
St: Cuthbert’s Parish Church.
Great Glen.

Catherine Elizabeth. Natural child of Mary Wilford …Bapt. 12th. May..

Also on the same day baptisms for James & Jane
Both down as Natural Children of Mary Wilford.

1851 Census ….
Within the Union Workhouse Billesdon along with .
Brother James 9.
Sister Jane.  6. No sign of Mother………

1861 Census returns shows her
within the Strong household No’ 6. Harvey Lane.
As a servant aged 18.born Great Glen. .

So matches the address given on marriage certificate……..

Hope this helps ?

MIKE. ….

[Scunny28]

Hello Mike
Thank you very much for the additional information,that was a surprise about the marriage church, apparently it is an Anglo-Catholic Church now, would it have been Roman Catholic back in 1866 are you aware? Non of the Leicester family I know of are catholic now.

Scunny28 

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s Again. ……….

St: Mary de Castro is the second oldest Church in Leicester
a Church of England from it’s beginning in the 12th. Century ( 1107 )
during the reign of Henry I

Originally started as St: Mary’s Parish Church changed to St: Mary de Castro 1801

1427 saw the 1st Parliament held here
and Geoffrey Chaucer ( of Canterbury Tales ) married Philippa Poet here.

Richard III reputed to have been briefly laid in state here following his death at the Battle of Bosworth  1485.

MIKE. ………