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How long after a birth could a child be registered in 1858? COMPLETED
« on: Monday 02 April 12 13:34 BST (UK) »
My great grandmother was Annie Aylward Belding who I have always known was born in Tydd St Giles on Cambridgeshire in 1859-there was a birth registered in Wisbech RD in December qtr of 1859. Her father was John Walker Belding, mother Mary Aylward, John's occupation tailor, they lived at Tydd St Mary. I don't have the certificate, but her marriage cert confirms her maiden name, name of her father and his occupation.

However, there this baptism at Tydd St Mary from Lincs to the Past:

Number 566: Privately May 4th 1858, Annie, daughter of John & Mary Belding, resident in the village of Tydd St Mary, occupation of father is shown as tailor.

http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=554436&iid=205434

I can't find birth for a person called Annie/Ann in 1858 with a surname of Belding or similar to it. Could it be that they just forgot to register it in 1858-how long have you to register the birth before the authorities start to take notice?

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Re: How long after a birth could a child be registered in 1858?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 April 12 13:46 BST (UK) »
Hi

Although registration was introduced in 1837 it didn't become compulsory until 1875 and here was no penalty for parents who didn't register a birth until 1875, when a £2 fine was introduced.

I think a lot of parents considered that a baptism was all they needed.

http://www.exploregenealogy.co.uk/birthcertificates.html
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Re: How long after a birth could a child be registered in 1858?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 April 12 14:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks Groom, that explains a lot. I have sent for the certificate anyway just to be sure. Compulsory Vaccination against what I wonder?

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Re: How long after a birth could a child be registered in 1858?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 April 12 14:05 BST (UK) »
Can you see her in 1861?

There ought to be a clear indication if she was aged 1 or 3.
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Re: How long after a birth could a child be registered in 1858?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 April 12 14:17 BST (UK) »
That's the trouble Geoff I can't find the Mary Walker &  family at all in 1861. Only  Dad, John Walker Belding or Beldon, born 1824/1829( there are two baptisms in Long Sutton that could both be him) on the census is a tailor, visiting the home of a publican in Boston.

This is him on A*****y  Class: RG 9; Piece: 2336; Folio: 87; Page: 13; GSU roll: 542955.

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Re: How long after a birth could a child be registered in 1858?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 April 12 14:21 BST (UK) »
That's the trouble Geoff I can't find the Mary Walker &  family at all in 1861. Only  Dad, John Walker Belding or Beldon, born 1824/1829( there are two baptisms in Long Sutton that could both be him) on the census is a tailor, visiting the home of a publican in Boston.

This is him on A*****y  Class: RG 9; Piece: 2336; Folio: 87; Page: 13; GSU roll: 542955.

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That man is listed on A as John Beldon,looks like it says he was a Sailor and is married.
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 April 12 14:27 BST (UK) »
So this is the parents marriage then?

No middle name given for John here.

Marriages Jun 1848   
 
Aylward  Mary    Holbeach ref 14 page 727   
BELDING  John     Holbeach ref  14 page 727   

And in 1851 in Tydd St Mary with two of their older children.

John Belding 29 journeyman Tailor
Mary Belding 26
Lucy Ann Belding 1
Mary Elizabeth Belding 6 Mo

HO107/2097 folio 136 page 5.

Hopefully that'll make it easier for us to spot them in 1861  ;D

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Re: How long after a birth could a child be registered in 1858?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 April 12 16:25 BST (UK) »
Yes that's the marriage:


25 June 1848, at Tydd St Mary (source British Isles Vital Records Index from Family Search
      Collection:   St Mary   
Husband's Father:   William BELDING   
Wife's Father:   Henry AYLWARD

Can you explain why it should be easier to spot them?

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 April 12 16:28 BST (UK) »
Yes that's the marriage:


25 June 1848, at Tydd St Mary (source British Isles Vital Records Index from Family Search
      Collection:   St Mary   
Husband's Father:   William BELDING   
Wife's Father:   Henry AYLWARD

Can you explain why it should be easier to spot them?

Tom

Because it gives the names,places and dates of birth of two more people in the family- Lucy and Mary.

Sadly I still can't find them- so I wonder if they've been missed off or down with a different surname altogether?

Carol
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